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      I am still rather new at all this but looking for some good helpful advice. I have only used gear one time. (Test Enthanate and EQ) I saw results but nothing great. I am ready to do another cycle but am looking for some advice on what to take. Just to give you a little background I am looking for more weight gain then muscle mass. I weight about 140 now. What is going to give me the 1) best results, 2) BIGGEST APPETITE (very important), and 3) trying to keep the side effects to a minimum.

      Please advise on gear, dosage, and length of use.

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      Hey bro IMO you need to stay off the juice for awhile and train natural get your diet, training, and rest in check and you'll grow not to flame you but 140lbs is not a good base to start with

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      do research first and then for a second cycle, this should do it..

      first off get your workout routine down, then get your diet and eating clean, get enough rest, and workout like a madman.

      what doses did you take the first time?

      second time around try 500mgs of enanthate or cyp a week,
      400 mgs of eq a week, jump start it with 30mgs of dbol a day for the first 4 weeks, do the eq and enanthate for 12 weeks minimum. and do clomid therapy 3 weeks after last shot.

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      I have done reasearch, even consulted my doctor, got my diet and workout routine down. I have stomach problems (not to get into detail), but unfortunaly I have reached my maximum without an additional boost. To put on added weight this is my next step. I appreciate all the help and advice. Keep it coming

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      to add the weight you must be eating 3500 to 4000 calories a day, b-12 will give you the added energy for your workouts if you need it, the eq will help with the appetite.

      what specific questions do you need answered?
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      Originally posted by Jonm839
      but unfortunaly I have reached my maximum without an additional boost. To put on added weight this is my next step. I appreciate all the help and advice. Keep it coming
      at 140lbs there is no way you have reached your peak. Stay off the juice and get your diet and training in check. If you cannot grow naturally then the juice wont help much.

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      also how old are you?

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      #140? Fine, if you 5' tall. Go ahead and use juice. or you can just give me the money you will be wasting. I can put it to better use.

      If you cant gain over #140 , obviously your diet, and/or training sucks. Which means that AAs wont help you none either. You want to put on wieght.....EAT!!!!!!
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      Don't mean to be sarcastic, but you need to really learn about aas, diet (protien cals, training, sleep, proper age, before even thinking about aas. Sound to me like you think the aas is a cure all for yourself.

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      man, get aleast to 180 natural and then use aas, but to answer to ur question,
      week 1 week 12 500 mg of test
      week1-week 10 EQ 400 mg
      week 1-week 6 25 mg of dbol
      tehn clomid and nolvedex

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      yes, please give your age.

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      Originally posted by Jonm839
      I have done reasearch, even consulted my doctor, got my diet and workout routine down. I have stomach problems (not to get into detail), but unfortunaly I have reached my maximum without an additional boost. To put on added weight this is my next step. I appreciate all the help and advice. Keep it coming
      Maximum? How about giving us a little more detail?

      Height/Weight/Age, how long training, when you did your first AAS, etc.

      You're going to need to EAT so your stomach problems may be an issue.
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      Yup. Like all the bros said, diet is key to growing. If your not planning on/able to put away at least 3000 cals/day, it'll be like taking sugar pills.

      Please do give us some more info about yourself.

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      I'm 22 yrs old. Did my first cycle back in January. Gained about 15 pound, lost about 5. I have Crohns disease which affects the digestive system and totally destroys your appetite. Basically I was stuck at about 125 pounds for years and years. Finally my doc suggestied kind bud for an appeite and to take steriods. It worked but not as well as I would like it to. I am being honest when I tell you that I have a workout routine and I eat a lot. I just need the juice for an added boost to make up for what my body is naturally lacking. I am not trying to be deisel, just need to be bigger.

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      smoke weed every day...
      that will give you THE APPETITE!
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