Tweetbro in all honesty...don't let him do it! if he is 17 he has a lot more time to grow naturally! get him on a good diet and lifting program and he can gain as much as the kids taking 1 shot of winny a week. if you don't want to listen to this advice then make sure he does it correctly, although i highly disagree with letting him use anything till he is at least 20!

TweetTalk to your wife and let her know he's hell bent on doing it, so he can either have some kids that don't know what thier talking about or you could help which would be safer.

JohnnyB

Tweetdo not let him do it , do not side with him,all you can do is tell him no ,he is gonna do what he wants any way , so just state your opion to him and hope for the best do not let this cause the big d bro good luck and best wishes

TweetTalk to your son and let him know that he is in his prime for putting on lean mass. He needs to eat more with a good training plan, work with him. Educate him on AAS. If him is still hell bent on doing a cycle, let him know his friends don't know what they're talking about.

Does he know you've used AAS? If he doesn't you might want to tell him so he'll know, that you know what your talking about.

If he must do a cycle, low dose anavar with creatine, would be the safest for a young person. Hope this helps.

JohnnyB

TweetI dont think you ever want to be dis honest with your kids, especialy ones at that age, however i wouldnt let him do it. 17 is too young. I would (and this is just my opinion) i would tell him that he can do it if you administer it for him. Tell him the only way he can do it is orally not injecting. I would then give him a combo of Andro and Creatine in pill form. Bulk up his diet and tell him that he is taking AS. Maybe by the time he finds out the truth, he has bulked up enough naturally to feel the need not to gear up so young. Again just my opinion and an option

Tweetguys youve got to realize how hard headed you were at 17. When your parents told you to stay away from smoking, drugs, alcohol did you? You may say yes but the majority will say no. He is going to do this even if its behind your back. Dont get me wrong, I dont condone it but its gonna happen. You must sit him down at the computer and educate him.

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Originally posted by Fina Addict
guys youve got to realize how hard headed you were at 17. When your parents told you to stay away from smoking, drugs, alcohol did you? You may say yes but the majority will say no. He is going to do this even if its behind your back. Dont get me wrong, I dont condone it but its gonna happen. You must sit him down at the computer and educate him.

exactly. he probably cant stop him, so at least educate him to the max

Tweethey im 19yrs old and i started at 17...i know i shouldnt hv started so early and was hardly well informed when i began!
im with tinfish on this give him creatine and andro in pill form to try fr a placebo effect and educate him on steroids!
i know if my dad wouldnt hv letme do it id hv just gone on and done it neways .,,hard headed as we are(not that he knows!!)

TweetI agree with these guys, give him andro or something. A lot has to do with the training and how far you push yourself. I always thought I pushed myself until recently. I have been working out with a pro and let me tell you I can't believe the difference. If you can I would work out with your son and push the shit out of him.

TweetYou need to do everything in your power to try and convince him not to do it. Hopefully you two have a great relationship, which it sounds like you do. Try to make him understand that by doing aas now he will never reach his natural potential as far as height or anything else. A cycle now will mean many,many more in his near future. But like others have said, If he must, do as little as possible the right way.

TweetI think everyone has covered every just about everything so far in this post. Straight to the point. No he shouldnt be doing it at that age and Yes please educate him on AAS. Eat Big, Train hard and get plenty of sleep. If he busts his ass doing those three things he will be suprised on what gains he can make.. He has to be dedicated to it and it will happen without AAS at that age.. Good luck....

TweetYour not gonna stop him. If I could have gotten my hands on them, I prob would have done em when I was 16.

Be honest, with your wife and your son, so at least either way, you have no guilt and have done the right thing.

IF anythign, talk him into using Var only. He will put on more size and strength than a winny cycle and wont have to inject.

TweetThats what I love about this board, bunch of great guys willing to help.
Yes my son knows that I have did them.
I will even print this tread for him to read, I will do this tomorrow incase there is somemore post.

Being honest with the wife is the best thing, but he asked me not to mention it so I really do not want to ruin the trust thing. I will talk to him and try and convince him to talk him his mother with me.
Like some of you have mentioned, at 17 he is going to do it if his mind is made up.

thanks for the quick replies.