Tweetyea i recently started using ice on my quads and i was going to post about it. If you ice the area for 3 min you can not feal the needle at all. For some reason my quads got real sensitive to shots, almost feals like im sticking my leg with a tack. Now i ice it and its totally fine.. Tri shots are painless as well as delts. Traps are fine untill you get the oil in them which can be a pain in the neck lol... Well thats my experience, so i will continue to ice my quads... Just give it a try.