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      I was thinkin that it would be awesome to help keep gains and over-all still feel like ur on after a cycle.
      Here's some quick info:
      Erythropoietin (EPO) is a protein hormone secreted by the kidneys and liver that stimulates red blood cell production (erythropoiesis). Red blood cells carry oxygen to the tissues of the body and so obviously are vital to maximal health and athletic performance.

      When people take anabolic steroids, particularly some oral ones such as Anadrol®, erythropoiesis is stimulated. The result is an increase in the proportion of blood cells in the blood, also known as the hematocrit. This increase in the hematocrit is partially responsible for the energizing and recovery benefits of steroids. It may also contribute to the blood volume and vascularizing effects of anabolics.

      When you go off anabolics, the increase in hematocrit gradually subsides and you return to pre-cycle lower levels (or below). This effect will take its toll on your physical condition and ability to train at high intensity. Therefore, administration of exogenous EPO can have obvious benefits in the steroid withdrawing athlete.

      In addition to its effect in increasing hematocrit, there is some evidence that EPO has direct anabolic effects. It has been shown in rat studies to substantially increase weight gain and injury repair after surgery. Furthermore, EPO receptors are present on myoblasts (immature muscle cell progenitors) and may have a potential in muscle development and repair.

      EPO is sold in recombinant form (rhEPO) for injection. One popular form is called Epogen®, and it is made for subcutaneous usage. A safe or starting dosage is usually 20 i.u. per kilogram bodyweight, 3 times/week. After two or three weeks, a maintanence dose of 20 iu/kg BW can be taken once a week. One should wait about two weeks after ceasing steroids to commence EPO therapy to avoid any excessive increases in hematocrit which can be quite dangerous. It is also very advisable to have periodic blood tests that include a hematocrit assay while taking EPO just to be safe. Interestingly, I think that this test is automatically done for free everytime you donate blood, and all you need to do is ask the nurse what your hematocrit is reading (just out of curiosity of course).

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      i have used this before you need to be very careful its very dangerous not for those who are less experianced

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      Well i'm still new to the game and won't try for quite awhile but i get anxious and like to plan for the future , so could i hear about some of ur experiences w/ it and sides u noticed, jack?

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      it gives bad head achs alot of energy the energy is what i used it for but i will tell ya save up if you find real epo its very expensive

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      how long did u run it for? the cost i figured for me right now is about $150 for 4 weeks

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      thats really cheap bro make sure its real i ran it 6 weeks

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      Well i'm only on my first cycle right now so i don't think i'm ready yet, but what would u consider to be the most dangerous part?

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      heart attack it doubbles your blood count , just like blood doping they use to do in the olimpics, you would take a pint o fblood out put in the fridge then the nifgt before your run you would put the pint back in dangerous stuff, there is no need for po bro not many pros even use the stuff i would ask you to think twice

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      Alright sounds like the risks far out weigh the gains, you've talked me out of it. I'm just lookin for ideas to help keep gains after a cycle besides what i already plan to do: PCT, lots of food/protien/calories and maybe some creatine. Any other ideas?

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      you ever tried slin it works just do alot of home work on it www.basskilleronline.com

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      yea it sounds awesome, do u think it can be done safely if read up on it very well. I'm willing to do lots of homework (i enjoy lookin this stuff up) but the sides like becoming a diabetic scare the crap out of me. If u think I could do it safely I'd definitely put the time in to learn everything i can then go for it. What do u think?

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      Originally posted by eaglewrestler27
      yea it sounds awesome, do u think it can be done safely if read up on it very well. I'm willing to do lots of homework (i enjoy lookin this stuff up) but the sides like becoming a diabetic scare the crap out of me. If u think I could do it safely I'd definitely put the time in to learn everything i can then go for it. What do u think?
      it can be done safley as long as you know what your getting into
      its all i use to bridge

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      Alright bro i'll check it out, thanx for all the info u have given me.

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      any time if you need help with the slin pm me ill tell you everything i can

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