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Tren is not the best beginer
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Cycle Input. Need Some Help
Tweetalright i need some helpful info on this cycle,
WEEKS 1-10 Test Enath 500mg./week
WEEKS 1-4 D-bol 30mged to jumpstart
this first part is for sure
this is what i am questioning?
i want to harden up at the end of the cycle but im trying to avoid more 17 aa roids like winstrol,
would i be better off with tren. at the end of this cycle to harden up until the start of my pct.
If i do go with the tren, would i need any hcg for cycle or would basic nolva therapy with some tribulus thrown in do fine.
this will be my first cycle with any type of test or d bol!
please let me know what you think
thanks
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TweetFirst cycle, what you have is plenty bro. Introduce one compound at a time(jumpstart excluded)
Tren is not the best beginer
"The tragedy of life is not found in failure but complacency. Not in you doing too much, but doing too little. Not in you living above your means, but below your capacity. Never failure but low aim, is life's greatest tragedy"- Benjamin Mayes
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it"- George Bernard Shaw
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Tweetive done winstrol injections before, but i just thought it would be a little hard on the liver for 10 weeks.
*for what reasons is tren not a good beginner steroid*
id like something to harden me up towards the end of the cycle!!
im currently 6'1" 185 12-13% bf
thanks
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TweetI ran test 600mg/wk for 14wks and EQ at 500mg/wk for 14 wks and dbol at 35mg ed for first 6 wks in my first cycle. It worked well and the EQ will harder you up with low to no sides, but you have to run thru the whole cycle and at least 14wks to see results. All i ran was .25 ldex ed thru entire cycle and for pct clomid. BTW, tren is bad on the renal system also which you are trying to avoid.
Tweetyou can do winny at the end (last 5 weeks) or do some deca or eq throughout.
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Tweeti definately dont want to do deca just b/c it shuts you down so hard. Winny is what i wanted to do at first but then i thought about it being harsh on the renal system.
**Which is more harsh winny or tren?**
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TweetApples and oranges,Originally posted by TestRip7
i definately dont want to do deca just b/c it shuts you down so hard. Winny is what i wanted to do at first but then i thought about it being harsh on the renal system.
**Which is more harsh winny or tren?**
but tren is a dirivitive of nandrolone and just as supressive as deca.
I don't like winny at all. I think it's the most overated steroid out there, but seeing as you've used it before, I'd go with it if your looking for a hardening factor at the end
I think you'd get the results your looking for without it though
"The tragedy of life is not found in failure but complacency. Not in you doing too much, but doing too little. Not in you living above your means, but below your capacity. Never failure but low aim, is life's greatest tragedy"- Benjamin Mayes
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it"- George Bernard Shaw
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