Tweetim thinking about doing this. i'd like some suggetsions since this will be my first test cycle.

week 1-8 sust250
week 1-12 tren
week 8-12 winny

im looking for some mass increase, but hardness is a key for me, thats why i threw the winny in with the tren. suggestions? money is going to be limiting me to something along these lines... so adding something else might be hard unless i cut something else down. tren wouldn't be it since i can get it cheap...

Tweetditch the winstrol. get more sustenon. you need to run it at least 12 weeks. Actually, I'd rather do without the tren, myself. I respond better to winstrol. You could just run the tren weeks 6-12 and get improved hardness, but 8 weeks of sust at 250 is not going to get you much, and you damn sure don't want to run tren by itself.

Tweethm ok. running sust first time, 500mg a week be ok?

Tweet500 is great. i hope you can stretch it out to 12 weeks. You will not want to stop at 8.

Tweeti prefer single ester tests, i say prop or cyp/enan... less tren and more test

1-12 test cyp
9-15 tren ace
pct 2 days after last tren shot

spare your liver and cut out on the winny

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Originally posted by warpalien
im thinking about doing this. i'd like some suggetsions since this will be my first test cycle.

week 1-8 sust250
week 1-12 tren
week 8-12 winny

im looking for some mass increase, but hardness is a key for me, thats why i threw the winny in with the tren. suggestions? money is going to be limiting me to something along these lines... so adding something else might be hard unless i cut something else down. tren wouldn't be it since i can get it cheap...

I always run test out past other compounds for recovery purposes.

1-12 250mg Sust E3D
1-12 75mg tren ED
HCG 500iu's Mon/Tues wk 6-15
.25mg L-dex + 10mg Nolva ED
200mg B6 for prolactin

PCT- 100mg Clomid, 20mg Nolva, 400mg B6 all for 30 days

Tweethow often are you going to inject the sust

TweetMoney is very often times an issue, but this is an area that you should not be on a budget. Save your money until you have EVERYthing you need, especially the PCT. A lot of people will start the cycle thinking they will just pick up PCT just before they need them. The next thing you know, the cycle is done, no PCT and the man-boobs begin.