TweetOriginally posted by Rome6'5... 232...20 yrs old. Please no comments about age.

I recently did a winny only cycle with Zambon(the pink tablets, 25mg each), where I took 75mg eod or about 4 days a week when I worked out. It had pretty good results going from 240 to 230ish with a great increase in strength. Right now I am on creatine and bulking but I have enough winny for another cycle... I would like to stack it with Fina and possibly the liquid clen...

Questions...

The prices arent much different in the fina kits... would an 8 or 10g kit be too much for this cycle? I imagine I could keep using fina only after the winny is done... How long would a 8g kit last me?

what cycle are u talking about bro?...a 2g kit is made for 2000mg of hormone and 4g kit is 4000mg of hormone and so on and so on, so if u ran 8000mg of hormone at 75mg/day u could get about 100 days worth (106.6666)


Liquid Clen... how does it compare to regular clen?(like oxyflux... 12 dollar bottles from mexico). Is it worth the extra money? I read it would last 30 days... well I know your suppose to do clen with 2 week cycles alternating between an ECA, this is how I've always done it before. Would the Clen work for about 2 weeks then stop being as effective or is the liquid much more potent that I could use for a month w/o tolerance?

Regardless bro, u are gonna build up a tolerance, plus i dont advise u use it more then 30 days for the obvious reasons. it is slightly more potent compared to some of the tabs out there however, u have to take in consideration marginal errors in dosage administration...however still, no longer then 30 days, u dont neccesarily have to use an ECA stack, I know alot of people that dont

Do I need clomid/liquidex for Fina? I didn't use any for my winny cycle since it wasn't oil based... No problems with not using either...

do a search on clomid then do a search on the effects of fina. You need clomid for post cycle therapy even with water based solutions

How long are typical Fina only cycles? I saw a post about someone being on for 5 months straight...about 50 clean pounds of muscle on him... thats sweet. I really want to be a solid 255 by next August with under 10% bf...

a good way to meet ur goals is to eat, i heard a crazy rumor that it puts on weight...lol fina does shut u donw pretty good, i would go 8 weeks tops with it, although i know that it can be run longer, if u eat clean it should yeild some lean mass

Diet? Is a strict high protein - low carb diet needed for results like this, or will eating like a horse help the strength and muscle gains and still burn fat?

if u are bulking, eat like a horse, if u are cutting eat like a normal person 5-6 meals a day, small meals not Happy Meals from MC donalds...lol and yes protein is the building blocks of muscle however u do need carbs for energy, u dont want to burn protein or muscle (catabolic)

One last thing... I know fina is oil based, but will it shut down my natural testosterone? I read you should stack it with test to keep your dick alive...

both test and tren shut u down pretty good, get some proscar and u will be ok


good luck....