Tweetive done a vast amount of research on cycles,and am putting one together now.My question is not on what to use but in how much and why.Many will say test 500ml 10 weeks,eq400ml 10 weeks, dbol 30mg ED 4 weeks, then post cycle therapy, this seems to be the standard for early cycles (1st or 2nd)but dont you think that on a 1st cycle one could get excellent gains with lower amounts,and good diet, being that it is a first cycle
many get great results with these numbers on later cycles, so why jump right up to these amounts for your first cycle.Even if a person only gained say 10 quality pounds on this cycle to me that would seem like a success
mind you the cycle I stated above may or may not be what I am going to use but I would like some feedback on the amounts and your reasons why you would use that amount,remember this will be a first cycle with a very good diet

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Originally posted by evel68
thanks for the reply,my reason for asking was that if you could use less and gain ,then that would be the best way to go(less chance of side effects)lets just say I dont have a great hairline now ,but I do want to keep what I got.Maybe I should throw out the Test and go with a deca based cycle, since it doesnt seem to cause that type of side effect.Any Ideas would be greatly appreciated

Bro. keep the test because you don't want to chance going limp on just deca. Go to your Dr and get some ********. Use this thoughout the cycle. Also use 1. Azelaic Acid 5% + Minoxidil 5% 2. Topical Spironolactone 2% 3. Nizoral Shampoo 2% you are using any of those products to STOP hair loss on a cycle and you quit using the product 3-4 weeks after the cycle is over, you will most likely retain all your hair. If you are using these products long term to regrow hair and you quit using them, you will slowly loose the new hair that you have gained while using the products.