Tweeti don't think i'd wanna do it while on a cycle myself... ur sperm count is really low (and u probably got some fked up dudes swimming around)..... as for hcg and clomid, sure it works, but i'd wait till my balls recover 100%... natuarally... give it some time...
steroids can cause intra-uterine growth retardation (IUGR) in the foetus if the woman is taking steroids while being pregnant... so if it can change and fk up the fetus i think it can do the same to ur sperm...

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Originally posted by LOCO
i don't think i'd wanna do it while on a cycle myself... ur sperm count is really low (and u probably got some fked up dudes swimming around)
steroids can cause intra-uterine growth retardation (IUGR) in the foetus if the woman is taking steroids while being pregnant... so if it can change and fk up the fetus i think it can do the same to ur sperm...

I have to disagree on this one bro. I don't think sperm quality is affected when a man takes AAS. Quantity or volume yes but not quality. I've known a few people who got their partners pregnant while on.

Tweetmy freind has two wonderful children that he concived while on aas ,for 6 years in a row

Tweeti feel it just decreases the number motile sperm available per ejaculation. your testes are depressed while on AAS so they are not making as many sperm. its like shootin a shotgun with half or more of the pellets taken out of the shell. you can still hit the dove but you may have to fire the gun more. hcg increases the LH which causes the testes to really step up production so i would guess that you are very deadly after 5000iu of hcg.

TweetI've also heard proviron while on can help keep the boys number high.

TweetProviron will keep your sex drive up, but it will effect your HPTA negativly.

TweetTO IAMDWALRUS NOT TO FLAME BUT YOU ARE 100% WRONG.AAS CAFFIENE,ALCOHOL,NICOTINE,RECREATIONAL DRUGS AND REGULAR PRESCRIBED DRUGS AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF SPERM. MEANING, MOTILITY,MOBILITY SHAPE ,SIZE ,LENGTH ECT.ONE SPERM OUT OF A MILLION HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REACH THE EGG JUST ONE. AND THAT ONE HAS TO BE PERFECT AND IF YOUR TAKING ANY THING I WROTE IT AFFECTS YOU. SO YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING YOUR SPOUSE PREGNANT IS SLIM TO NONE ON STEROIDS. THE WORST STEROID OUT THERE THAT AFFECTS YOUR SPERM IS DECA. IT WIPES YOU OUT . ZERO NO MORE ZILTCH. TAKE IT FROM A GUY WHO DID INFERTILITY FOR 4 YEARS KNOWS A LITTLE THING ABOUT SPERM. AND AFTER 4 YEARS WE ARE HAVING A BABY ANY DAY NOW ITS A GIRL.IT WAS ARE 3RD TRY AT INVETRO AND WORKED.

Tweetcongratulations bro. Thats why i am so against deca. But some people have had babys and they were takin juice probably not deca though, and they are healthy.

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Originally posted by fuzo
TO IAMDWALRUS NOT TO FLAME BUT YOU ARE 100% WRONG.AAS CAFFIENE,ALCOHOL,NICOTINE,RECREATIONAL DRUGS AND REGULAR PRESCRIBED DRUGS AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF SPERM. MEANING, MOTILITY,MOBILITY SHAPE ,SIZE ,LENGTH ECT.ONE SPERM OUT OF A MILLION HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REACH THE EGG JUST ONE. AND THAT ONE HAS TO BE PERFECT AND IF YOUR TAKING ANY THING I WROTE IT AFFECTS YOU. SO YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING YOUR SPOUSE PREGNANT IS SLIM TO NONE ON STEROIDS. THE WORST STEROID OUT THERE THAT AFFECTS YOUR SPERM IS DECA. IT WIPES YOU OUT . ZERO NO MORE ZILTCH. TAKE IT FROM A GUY WHO DID INFERTILITY FOR 4 YEARS KNOWS A LITTLE THING ABOUT SPERM. AND AFTER 4 YEARS WE ARE HAVING A BABY ANY DAY NOW ITS A GIRL.IT WAS ARE 3RD TRY AT INVETRO AND WORKED.

i concur...

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Originally posted by fuzo
TO IAMDWALRUS NOT TO FLAME BUT YOU ARE 100% WRONG.AAS CAFFIENE,ALCOHOL,NICOTINE,RECREATIONAL DRUGS AND REGULAR PRESCRIBED DRUGS AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF SPERM. MEANING, MOTILITY,MOBILITY SHAPE ,SIZE ,LENGTH ECT.ONE SPERM OUT OF A MILLION HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REACH THE EGG JUST ONE. AND THAT ONE HAS TO BE PERFECT AND IF YOUR TAKING ANY THING I WROTE IT AFFECTS YOU. SO YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING YOUR SPOUSE PREGNANT IS SLIM TO NONE ON STEROIDS. THE WORST STEROID OUT THERE THAT AFFECTS YOUR SPERM IS DECA. IT WIPES YOU OUT . ZERO NO MORE ZILTCH. TAKE IT FROM A GUY WHO DID INFERTILITY FOR 4 YEARS KNOWS A LITTLE THING ABOUT SPERM. AND AFTER 4 YEARS WE ARE HAVING A BABY ANY DAY NOW ITS A GIRL.IT WAS ARE 3RD TRY AT INVETRO AND WORKED.

Good point, next time don't use all cap!!!!

TweetAS will affect sperm quantity and it will affect sperm quality (to the extent we are talking about the motiility, shape and size). It will not affect the dna carried by the sperm. In other words, if one of your boys makes it in, you don't have to worry that the quality of that guy was affected by AS.

It is possible to get someone pregnant while you are on, the chances are just lower after you have been on for around 5 weeks. And to whoever said hcg helps your sperm count, you are exactly right. If you cycle hcg every few weeks your sperm production can remain relatively normal.

By way of examples, I use hcg and clomid for recovery. Seven weeks after coming off I had a sperm analysis done. My numbers (for those that care) were 40m per ml and 3.5 mls; motility rate was 59% and shape was 60%. This vastly exceeded the World Health Organization's guide for what is normal. To contrast, my friend had been on deca for a few years and came off without using anything. He had his analysis taken about 3 months after he came off and they found 2 sperm (not 2 million, 2). Neither of which was motile. He is now following in fuzo's footsteps and trying, throught the use of hcg, to get enough sperm built up that they can try in vitro.

TweetTARZAN CAPS IS HOW I WRITE .

TweetSperm quantity is affected I went and got myself tested when on for 2 months and when I was off and my sperm count was almost non-existent when I was on! This debate came up a while ago and nobody knew so that is why I got the test! I have had sex hundreds of times and no condom and never one pregnancy! I would wait till you were on for a bit before I tried this I think it takes a while before your body shuts down!