TweetI just cut because I do 2 bulks a year now.....I gain lots of water and fat. Cut right before summer, thats it!
TweetJust an observation open for discussion.
I see far too many guys that weigh 180 or 190 doing cutting cycles. I understand everyone’s goal is different. But why would you need to take AS to cut up when you’re already pretty lean at 180 or 190. A lot of guys at the gym come to me and ask me what they should take to cut up. These are guys that weigh 180lb. I look at them and ask them what they are planning to cut up if they haven’t built enough muscle yet.
If your going to take AS then be smart and build as much muscle as you can or until you reach your goal, then you can begin to define your body. But if you’re just looking for a great set of abs to hit the beach, then don’t take AS just do cardio and diet. Too many guys do a bulking cycle followed by a cutting cycle then do another bulking cycle. Unless you’re already at a competing level, why do a cutting cycle in between bulking cycles? Forget about bulking or cutting and just try and build as much quality muscle while remaining at a BF% that is comfortable for you.
And I don’t agree with guys that are 25 -30%bf that use AS to lose weight. That’s like someone who just started working out that weighs 150lb start using AS from the start. Everyone whether you’re 150lb or 300lb should take their genetics to the max before the start of AS.
Anyways that’s just my opinion
TweetI just cut because I do 2 bulks a year now.....I gain lots of water and fat. Cut right before summer, thats it!
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Tweetsome gys like the skinny cut up brad pitt look
TweetAnd thats fine, but would you use AS for that.Originally posted by jack hust
some gys like the skinny cut up brad pitt look
Tweeti dont think so, but there are alot of uneducated guys out there who will do anything and think aas are a magic pill i dont agree with them using but i wont stand in there way , but i would tell them to learn about nutrition
TweetIts a mess with me, if i bulk to long(12-15 weeks) I carry to much fat and water and then when i cut my hunger pains from bulking take over then mess up my cutting cycle
I love to be hungry and i love to be full
TweetNo offense bro, but who are you to decide who should use steroids and when? Seriously, this isn't a flame. Just think about that. There is no "wrong" or "right" answer as to when to use steroids.
TweetI agree with AU everyone thinks they have valid reasoning, and to them it is valid.
But bpp did address it well and was just asking. Some guys are just scared of being big, them be *****s.
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Tweetcutting and bulking......2 things that juice can do for you!! I happen to use juice as both, bulking and cutting.......why not??
People can do whatever they fancy with AS, as long as they do it the right way....then who cares!
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Tweetmany people will look much larger being cut at a smaller weight than 30 pounds heavier and dont look very big. Probably trying to look good all the time
TweetEveryone should understand that the steroids don't burn the fat if your cutting,it all comes around to diet,you should only use the steroids on a cutting cycle to spare muscle tissue while dieting and some people don't understand,like it was mentioned steroids aren't magic pills,hell even supplements aren't magic pills,if your diet is not in check then all of the steroids and supplements in the world won't help you,just my .02.
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Tweetok to clear up things and simply reply to the main question as to why use aas to cut. Very simple bros the aas will help keep on the muscle weight while doing reductions in cals along with cardio. Im sure all you guys would like to keep every ounce of muscle while cutting and aas can help you do that. This is just what i have figured out and read many times on message boards.. Makes some sense too..
TweetWhen I did my first cycle (100mg winny ed, 75mg tren ed, 8 weeks) I weighed 315 at 30%bf I'm 29 and 6'1". Now granted, I lost 4%bf in that cycle I also fully beleive that it was mostly due to the fact that I was working out every night rather than a few times a week. I have been off for about eight weeks or so and I have gone down to 22% at 275, I have still been working out with almost as much intensity (lost the gear pump) since and have started to run for 30 min ed.
Point being, I agree with you (to a degree). Starting a cycle definitely helped me make a higher commitment to being in the gym though. I plan to start my next cycle in November which will be a 16-20 week eq based cycle with some tests and winny in the end to cut bloat.
I also think that peoples reasons for going on can differ. If someones trying to be a top level bodybuilder, I agree, take your body as far as you can before going on as, then get HUGE on gear. But, some people never want to be that big and just want an edge in the gym and to see results faster.
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TweetI agree with this.. It is very possible to cut without juice. But you will lose some muscle.. Its impossible not to. With juice you can gain muscle while losing bodyfat.. I dont nessisarliy disagree with using it to cut. I disagree more with the See-Food bulk where people get around 20% to put on mass. A lean bulk is better IMO and saves you the need for a big cut.Originally posted by Gearhead
ok to clear up things and simply reply to the main question as to why use aas to cut. Very simple bros the aas will help keep on the muscle weight while doing reductions in cals along with cardio. Im sure all you guys would like to keep every ounce of muscle while cutting and aas can help you do that. This is just what i have figured out and read many times on message boards.. Makes some sense too..
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