A bulker im working on. Lets hear your thoughts.

**pudgy** · 08-14-2003, 10:10 AM

When i reach my desired bf visually im gonna run a bulker. Being as i have been cutting since i was borm id like your opinions on the cycle and the calories you think i would need. I will start this cycle at 6 ft 3in 250 or so and in the high teens in bf.

week 1-3 slin a.m. and post workout starting with 1 iu a shot ramping up to 5 by week 3
50 mg dbol ed.
1b of test enanthate
week 4-6 one week of 10 iu ed slin two weeks off ,same test and last 3 weeks of dbol.
weeks 7-11 test 1g / slin 10iu ed adding 1 iu each week
weeks12-14 test alone, off slin
weeks 15-20 50 mg winny ed, test same
anti-e on hand but im not prone to shut down or gyno.

This would be my first experience with slin, and my first enanthate cycle. My last cycle was fina 75mg ed /prop 100 mg ed/ clen/stacker 3 split and t-3.

My cutting diet is a 50 /25/25 split with gettig about 200-220 grams of protein a day. Ive gained a little , but mostly cut fat and preserved muscle.

**flexer01** · 08-14-2003, 11:21 AM

i was thinkin on insulin as well.......you'll have to let us know how you make out with it.

you'll be very happy with test ethenate......i love the stuff!

**x|Fluid|x** · 08-14-2003, 11:26 AM

I think slin is a bad choice for someone who is in the high teens BF%. It can pack on the fat quite quickly.

**flexer01** · 08-14-2003, 11:33 AM

what if your metabalism is very fast?? I have trouble with putting on massive weight.....I grow muscle wise, but not like some guys do.

**x|Fluid|x** · 08-14-2003, 03:08 PM

whats your stats?

You can gian quality muscle with slin, but I wouldnt do it if your BF is already quite high.

jack hust · 08-14-2003, 03:19 PM

yes pudgy slin may be a bad choice untill you get your bf down i have used up to 20 iu ed for 7 weeks with sust and fina great gains but about 8-10lbs of fat

DiamondBling · 08-14-2003, 04:05 PM

Dont' do slin pudgy

**Got Gear?** · 08-14-2003, 05:31 PM

Well Pudg,

I'm another of the "don't use slin" people. Your body likes to be heavy, packing on the mass shouldn't be a problem.

But hey.. it can't hurt anything so long as you really watch what you eat after you take the slin.

And how much test are you using per week?

I find that it's not so much how many calories you eat, but wether they are clean calories. I'd reccomend you keep the fat's low (no more than 20%) and split the rest of your calories up evenly between protien and carbs.

**football54** · 08-14-2003, 09:29 PM

dude your 6'3'' 250 why the hell do u want to bulk? Is there any reason why u want to be so big with such a high body fat? IMO you need to drop to about 230 and get your body fat to the low teens around 10%.
Not to flame or anything but i wonder why some people want to be so big. I think i might start a post on this

**Got Gear?** · 08-14-2003, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by football54
dude your 6'3'' 250 why the hell do u want to bulk? Is there any reason why u want to be so big with such a high body fat? IMO you need to drop to about 230 and get your body fat to the low teens around 10%.
Not to flame or anything but i wonder why some people want to be so big. I think i might start a post on this

Sorry to barge in, but I think I can answer your question.

Pudgy has worked his ass off to get where he is, and If I was him, I'd be getting damn tired of cutting. Let him bulk, he can continue cutting once he's done PCT.

bigpopapump · 08-15-2003, 11:07 AM

First off I would never use slin for more than 4 weeks unless you’re ok with the chance of becoming diabetic. After 4 weeks your body will start to become resistant to it and become depended on the slin. Don’t risk it. The dosages for slin are 1iu per 20lb of lean body mass. And yes the slin will pack on muscle, but it will also pack on fat unless you eat as clean as you can and if you eat too clean you could go into shock. I’ve had a few scares.

My opinion you’re already a big man, you don’t need slin to get the results you’re looking for. The rest of your cycle looks good, i would hust add the fina again. Good luck.

**pudgy** · 08-15-2003, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by football54
dude your 6'3'' 250 why the hell do u want to bulk? Is there any reason why u want to be so big with such a high body fat? IMO you need to drop to about 230 and get your body fat to the low teens around 10%.
Not to flame or anything but i wonder why some people want to be so big. I think i might start a post on this

i wanna be big and freaky, dont hate me because im beautiful

**pudgy** · 08-15-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by bigpopapump
First off I would never use slin for more than 4 weeks unless you’re ok with the chance of becoming diabetic. After 4 weeks your body will start to become resistant to it and become depended on the slin. Don’t risk it. The dosages for slin are 1iu per 20lb of lean body mass. And yes the slin will pack on muscle, but it will also pack on fat unless you eat as clean as you can and if you eat too clean you could go into shock. I’ve had a few scares.

My opinion you’re already a big man, you don’t need slin to get the results you’re looking for. The rest of your cycle looks good, i would hust add the fina again. Good luck.

4 weeks on two weeks off. like the title says im working on it.
ive done 4 months research on slin , its a calculated risk.

im done with fina for now 2 cycles this year already, need to give it time. thanks for the input

chicken hawk · 08-15-2003, 12:00 PM

Pudge man,

I think that is a good bulker, a little iffy on the slin though. Take in more protein 200-220gr. isn't quite enough for a 250 lb. guy. 270-300gr. Cycle looks solid though.

I see you are from GA also.

**pudgy** · 08-15-2003, 01:00 PM

everytime i see your handle i hear cypress hill music. "im a chicken hawk looking for a chicken, get paranoid when you hear my glock clicking.. "

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