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TweetOkay, im going to need everyone's opinion on this. A while back I posted a question on if any steroids could help increase height, I decided to take anavar to see if it could help. I have been taking anavar for about 5 or 6 weeks now at 25mg a day. I was 5'7 and I swear im now 5'8 since I started using anavar. the problem is anavar is very expensive and im running out of money (im a college student, 20 years old). I have enough anavar for about a month and a half.
Here is the question, if I take steroids (equipoise) do you think I can get an extra inch if I do this. I have read many studies on how most steroids accelerate your growth in height and then stunt your growth permintly. Here is one example that I took from Rado's post
The use of anabolic/androgenic steroids can stunt the growth potential of children and adolescents. It is interesting to note that often there is a short-term accelerated growth of the bones.
What do you all think about this? everyone thoughts would be greatly appreciated and please no flaming.
"I plead with you to give your bodies to God. Let them be a sacrifice -- the kind he will accept. When you think of what he has done for you, is this too much to ask"?
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Tweet1st of all, why did you start so young? that particular post was reffering itself to studies showing how AS CAN help growth indeed. Some Dr's have used it on children who have not fully developed yet, EQ will not help you get taller, if it did, I would of done a gallon of QV EQ already....
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TweetI started young cuz of football. I have been lifting natural for nearly 8 years (5 years, I knew what I was doing). Yea I know that your post was about young kids, but I have read many books and magazines that have shown studies like that. They accelarate growth and then stunt your growth perminatly. for example, some guy I have known for a while started taking steroids in the 8th grade (that is way to young to start steroids) but he grew taller then everyone (growth spurt) then he never grew again. and since im 20 years old, I know that chances of me growing taller are very slim, so im trying to get one last "spurt" before my time is upOriginally posted by rado
1st of all, why did you start so young? that particular post was reffering itself to studies showing how AS CAN help growth indeed. Some Dr's have used it on children who have not fully developed yet, EQ will not help you get taller, if it did, I would of done a gallon of QV EQ already
"I plead with you to give your bodies to God. Let them be a sacrifice -- the kind he will accept. When you think of what he has done for you, is this too much to ask"?
ROMANS 12:1
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TweetI 2nd that one Rado.
TweetOriginally posted by rude
I started young cuz of football. I have been lifting natural for nearly 8 years (5 years, I knew what I was doing). Yea I know that your post was about young kids, but I have read many books and magazines that have shown studies like that. They accelarate growth and then stunt your growth perminatly. for example, some guy I have known for a while started taking steroids in the 8th grade (that is way to young to start steroids) but he grew taller then everyone (growth spurt) then he never grew again. and since im 20 years old, I know that chances of me growing taller are very slim, so im trying to get one last "spurt" before my time is up
I'm not a person who gets all "technical" on shit like this but from what I have read and learned is that AS have been used for people who have had growth problems. I think in your case your growth factor is pretty much shot, but I'm no Dr. though. I don't think that gear that you use will help you, for that you would have to see a Dr. and let them do tests on you to see what it could/would be. EQ wont help
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TweetI take it your shorter than you would likeOriginally posted by rado
EQ will not help you get taller, if it did, I would of done a gallon of QV EQ already
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Tweetread my profileOriginally posted by rockandroll
I take it your shorter than you would like
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TweetMy brother was 5'7" when he graduated high school. Today he is 6' tall. Chances that you're still growing are highly probable. Don't think it's the gear, but then again, I'm no doctor!
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Tweeti don't mind,i'm short 5"5'
the number one chinese dj in the whole mutha fukin world"dj tommy" from hongkong you all......
shout out to...hong kong bodybuilding association
TweettHere are a few ass that are used to make people to grow ...
OXANDROLONE Substance: oxandrolone
Trade Names:
Anavar (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle U.S.
Anatrophill (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle FR
Lipidex 2.5 mg tab.; Searle Brazil
Lonavar (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle Argentina
Lonavar 2 mg tab.; Dainippon Japan
Oxandrolone SPA 2.5 mg tab.; SPA I
Vasorome 0.5 mg tab.; Kowa Japan
Oxandrolone 5 mg tab; Ttokkyo Labs
Vasorome 2 mg tab.; Kowa Japan
Searle Company introduced the substance oxandrolone to the U.S. market in 1964 under the name Anavar and it enjoyed great popu-larity for over two decades until, on July 1, 1989, the produc-tion of Anavar was phased out. Today Anavar is manufactured under its various generic names in only a few countries (see above). The compound with the generic name Oxandrolone SPA by S.p.A. Milano Company (Società Prodotti Antibiotica) from Italy is the only original anabolic steroid available in Europe which contains the substance oxandrolone. There are 30 tablets in one box with two push-through strips of 15 tablets each. Oxandrolone is a weak steroid with only a slight androgenic component. It has been shown that Oxandrolone, when taken in reasonable dos-ages, rarely has any side effects. This is appreciated since Oxandrolone was developed mostly for women and children. Oxandrolone is one of the few steroids which does not cause an early stunting of growth in children since it does not prematurely close the epiphysial growth plates. For this reason Oxandrolone is mostly used in children to stimulate growth and in women to prevent osteoporosis. Oxandrolone causes very light virilization symptoms, if at all. This characteristic makes Oxandrolone a fa-vored remedy for female athletes since, at a daily dose of 10-15 mg, masculinizing symptoms are observed only rarely.
Bodybuilders and powerlifters, in particular, like Oxandrolone for three reasons. First, Oxandrolone causes a strong strength gain by stimulating the phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle cell without depositing liquid (water) in the joints and the muscles. Powerlifters and weightlifters who do not want to end up in a higher weight class take advantage of this since it allows them to get stronger without gaining body weight at the same time. The combination of Oxandrolone and 20 - 30 mg Holotestin daily has proven to be very effective since the muscles also look harder. Similarly good results can be achieved by a simultaneous intake of Oxandrolone and 120-140 mcg Clenbuterol per day. Although Oxandrolone itself does not cause a noticeable muscle growth it can clearly improve the muscle-developing effect of many ste-roids. Deca-Durabolin, Dianabol, and the various testosterone compounds, in particular, combine well with Oxandrolone to achieve a "mass buildup" because the strength gain caused by the intake of these highly tissue-developing and liquid-retaining sub-stances results in an additional muscle mass. A stack of 200 mg Deca-Durabolin/week, 500 mg Testosterone enanthate (e.g. Testoviron Depot 250)/week, and 25 mg Oxandrolone/day leads to a good gain in strength and mass in most athletes. Deca-Durabolin has a distinct anabolic effect and stimulates the syn-thesis of protein; Oxandrolone improves the strength by a higher phosphocreatine synthesis; and Testosterone enanthate increases the aggressiveness for the workout and accelerates regeneration.
The second reason why Oxandrolone is so popular is that this compound does not aromatize in any dosage. As already men-tioned, a certain part of the testosterone present in the body is converted into estrogen. This aromatization process, depending on the predisposition, can vary distinctly from one athlete to another. Oxandrolone is one of the few steroids which cannot aromatize to estrogen. This characteristic has various advantages for the athlete. With Oxandrolone the muscle system does not get the typical watery appearance as with many steroids, thus making it very interesting during the preparation for a competition. In this phase it is especially important to keep the estrogen level as low as possible since estrogen programs the body to store water even if the diet is calorie-reduced. In combination with a diet, Oxandrolone helps to make the muscles har~ and ripped. Although Oxandrolone itself does not break downfat, it plays an indirect role in this process because the substancr-often suppresses the athlete's appetite. Oxandrolone can also cause some bloating which in several athletes results in nausea and vomiting when the tablets are taken with meals. The package insert of the Italian Oxandrolone notes its effect on the activity of the gas-trointestinal tract. Some athletes thus report continued diarrhea. Although these symptoms are not very pleasant they still help the athlete break down fat and become harder. Those who work out for a competition or are interested in gaining quality muscles should combine Oxandrolone with steroids such as Winstrol, Parabolan, Masteron, Primobolan, and Testosterone propionate. A stack of 50 mg Winstrol every two days, 50 mg Testosterone propionate every two days, and 25 mg Oxandrolone every day has proven effective. Another advantage of Oxandrolone's non-aromatization is that athletes who suffer from high blood pres-sure or develop gynecomastia of the thymus glands when taking stronger androgenic steroids will not have these side effects with this compound. The. Oxandrolone/Deca-Durabolin stack is a wel-come alternative for this group of athletes or for athletes show-ing signs of poor health during mass buildup with testosterone, Dianabol, or Anadrol 50. Athletes over forty should predomi-nantly use Oxandrolone.
The third reason which speaks well for an intake of Oxandrolone is that even in a very high dosage this compound does not influ-ence the body's own testosterone production. To make this clear: Oxandrolone does not suppress the body's own hormone pro-duction. The reason is that it does not have a negative feedback mechanism on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis, meaning that during the intake of Oxandrolone, unlike during the intake of most anabolic steroids, the testes signal the hypo-thalamus not to reduce or to stop the release of GnRH (gonadot-ropin releasing hormone) and LHRH Luteinizing hormon releas-ing hormone). This special feature of Oxandrolone can be explained by the fact that the substance is not converted into estrogen Oxandrolone (Anavar), when given to normal men in high doses does not reduce the seminal volume or count, nor can it be converted (aromatized) into estrogen.
Oxandrolone combines very well with Andriol, since Andriol does not aromatize in a dosage of up to 240 mg daily and has only slight influence on the hormone production. The daily intake of 280 mg Andriol and 25 mg Oxandrolone re-sults in a good gain in strength and, in steroid novices, also in muscle mass without excessive water retention and without a significant influence on testosterone production. As for the dos-age of Oxandrolone, 8-12 tablets in men and 5-6 tablets in women seem to bring the best results. The rule of thumb to take 0.125 mg/pound of body weight daily has proven successful in clinical tests. The tablets are normally taken two to three times daily after meals thus assuring an optimal absorption of the substance. Those who get the already discussed gastrointestinal pain when taking Oxandrolone are better off taking the tablets one to two hours after a meal or switching to another compound.
Since Oxandrolone is only slightly toxic and usually shows few side effects it is used by several athletes over a prolonged period of time. However Oxandrolone should not be taken for several consecutive months, since, as with almost all oral steroids it is 1 7-alpha alky-lated and thus liver toxic. Oxandrolone is an all-purpose remedy which, depending on the athlete's goal, is very versatile. Women who react sensitively to the intake of anabolic steroids achieve good results when combining Oxandrolone/Primobolan Tabs and/or Clenbuterol, without suffering from the usual virilization symp-toms. Women, however, should not take more than 6 tablets daily. otherwise, androgenic-caused side effects such as acne, deep voice, clitorial hypertrophy or increased growth of body hair can occur.
Probably the largest disadvantages that come along with Oxandrolone are its high price and poor availability on the black market. Original Oxandrolone costs about $1 - 2 per tablet on the black market and is rarely avail-able, if at all.
TweetYou never know bro, like that myth "Play BasketBall Bro". I dont know what to tell u there amigo, Ive read that roids stunt your growth when your young. I started roids when I was 17, but not a cycle. I would take them for a month and stop, gain little size and then lose it quickly. I started my real cycle when I was 19. Ive been 5'11'' since my freshamn year in high school back in 1996. I havent grown an inch, so I dont know what to tell u brother.
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TweetYeah, but at least in Hongkong everybody is short.Originally posted by hongkongguy
i don't mind,i'm short 5"5'
I am 6'3" so I don't care.
In fact it takes so much more work to fill out all that frame and build mass around long limbs. Luckily, naturaly I got that v-shape with very wide shoulders. In the end for sure it is intimidating.
Beauty is only skin deep - unless you have some good muscle underneath.
Then it goes much deeper.
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Tweetthat's true bro,i am the standard in hongkong.but i am living in LA.anyway,i found short guys build mass easier than tall guys like you.one of the short pro.....lee priest.....Originally posted by PHABIO
Yeah, but at least in Hongkong everybody is short.
I am 6'3" so I don't care.
In fact it takes so much more work to fill out all that frame and build mass around long limbs. Luckily, naturaly I got that v-shape with very wide shoulders. In the end for sure it is intimidating.
the number one chinese dj in the whole mutha fukin world"dj tommy" from hongkong you all......
shout out to...hong kong bodybuilding association
TweetI thought once your growth plates were fused, you couldn't grow any taller just thicker.
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TweetAnavar won't make you taller.Originally posted by buyb12
tHere are a few ass that are used to make people to grow ...
OXANDROLONE Substance: oxandrolone
Trade Names:
Anavar (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle U.S.
Anatrophill (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle FR
Lipidex 2.5 mg tab.; Searle Brazil
Lonavar (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle Argentina
Lonavar 2 mg tab.; Dainippon Japan
Oxandrolone SPA 2.5 mg tab.; SPA I
Vasorome 0.5 mg tab.; Kowa Japan
Oxandrolone 5 mg tab; Ttokkyo Labs
Vasorome 2 mg tab.; Kowa Japan
Searle Company introduced the substance oxandrolone to the U.S. market in 1964 under the name Anavar and it enjoyed great popu-larity for over two decades until, on July 1, 1989, the produc-tion of Anavar was phased out. Today Anavar is manufactured under its various generic names in only a few countries (see above). The compound with the generic name Oxandrolone SPA by S.p.A. Milano Company (Società Prodotti Antibiotica) from Italy is the only original anabolic steroid available in Europe which contains the substance oxandrolone. There are 30 tablets in one box with two push-through strips of 15 tablets each. Oxandrolone is a weak steroid with only a slight androgenic component. It has been shown that Oxandrolone, when taken in reasonable dos-ages, rarely has any side effects. This is appreciated since Oxandrolone was developed mostly for women and children. Oxandrolone is one of the few steroids which does not cause an early stunting of growth in children since it does not prematurely close the epiphysial growth plates. For this reason Oxandrolone is mostly used in children to stimulate growth and in women to prevent osteoporosis. Oxandrolone causes very light virilization symptoms, if at all. This characteristic makes Oxandrolone a fa-vored remedy for female athletes since, at a daily dose of 10-15 mg, masculinizing symptoms are observed only rarely.
Bodybuilders and powerlifters, in particular, like Oxandrolone for three reasons. First, Oxandrolone causes a strong strength gain by stimulating the phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle cell without depositing liquid (water) in the joints and the muscles. Powerlifters and weightlifters who do not want to end up in a higher weight class take advantage of this since it allows them to get stronger without gaining body weight at the same time. The combination of Oxandrolone and 20 - 30 mg Holotestin daily has proven to be very effective since the muscles also look harder. Similarly good results can be achieved by a simultaneous intake of Oxandrolone and 120-140 mcg Clenbuterol per day. Although Oxandrolone itself does not cause a noticeable muscle growth it can clearly improve the muscle-developing effect of many ste-roids. Deca-Durabolin, Dianabol, and the various testosterone compounds, in particular, combine well with Oxandrolone to achieve a "mass buildup" because the strength gain caused by the intake of these highly tissue-developing and liquid-retaining sub-stances results in an additional muscle mass. A stack of 200 mg Deca-Durabolin/week, 500 mg Testosterone enanthate (e.g. Testoviron Depot 250)/week, and 25 mg Oxandrolone/day leads to a good gain in strength and mass in most athletes. Deca-Durabolin has a distinct anabolic effect and stimulates the syn-thesis of protein; Oxandrolone improves the strength by a higher phosphocreatine synthesis; and Testosterone enanthate increases the aggressiveness for the workout and accelerates regeneration.
The second reason why Oxandrolone is so popular is that this compound does not aromatize in any dosage. As already men-tioned, a certain part of the testosterone present in the body is converted into estrogen. This aromatization process, depending on the predisposition, can vary distinctly from one athlete to another. Oxandrolone is one of the few steroids which cannot aromatize to estrogen. This characteristic has various advantages for the athlete. With Oxandrolone the muscle system does not get the typical watery appearance as with many steroids, thus making it very interesting during the preparation for a competition. In this phase it is especially important to keep the estrogen level as low as possible since estrogen programs the body to store water even if the diet is calorie-reduced. In combination with a diet, Oxandrolone helps to make the muscles har~ and ripped. Although Oxandrolone itself does not break downfat, it plays an indirect role in this process because the substancr-often suppresses the athlete's appetite. Oxandrolone can also cause some bloating which in several athletes results in nausea and vomiting when the tablets are taken with meals. The package insert of the Italian Oxandrolone notes its effect on the activity of the gas-trointestinal tract. Some athletes thus report continued diarrhea. Although these symptoms are not very pleasant they still help the athlete break down fat and become harder. Those who work out for a competition or are interested in gaining quality muscles should combine Oxandrolone with steroids such as Winstrol, Parabolan, Masteron, Primobolan, and Testosterone propionate. A stack of 50 mg Winstrol every two days, 50 mg Testosterone propionate every two days, and 25 mg Oxandrolone every day has proven effective. Another advantage of Oxandrolone's non-aromatization is that athletes who suffer from high blood pres-sure or develop gynecomastia of the thymus glands when taking stronger androgenic steroids will not have these side effects with this compound. The. Oxandrolone/Deca-Durabolin stack is a wel-come alternative for this group of athletes or for athletes show-ing signs of poor health during mass buildup with testosterone, Dianabol, or Anadrol 50. Athletes over forty should predomi-nantly use Oxandrolone.
The third reason which speaks well for an intake of Oxandrolone is that even in a very high dosage this compound does not influ-ence the body's own testosterone production. To make this clear: Oxandrolone does not suppress the body's own hormone pro-duction. The reason is that it does not have a negative feedback mechanism on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis, meaning that during the intake of Oxandrolone, unlike during the intake of most anabolic steroids, the testes signal the hypo-thalamus not to reduce or to stop the release of GnRH (gonadot-ropin releasing hormone) and LHRH Luteinizing hormon releas-ing hormone). This special feature of Oxandrolone can be explained by the fact that the substance is not converted into estrogen Oxandrolone (Anavar), when given to normal men in high doses does not reduce the seminal volume or count, nor can it be converted (aromatized) into estrogen.
Oxandrolone combines very well with Andriol, since Andriol does not aromatize in a dosage of up to 240 mg daily and has only slight influence on the hormone production. The daily intake of 280 mg Andriol and 25 mg Oxandrolone re-sults in a good gain in strength and, in steroid novices, also in muscle mass without excessive water retention and without a significant influence on testosterone production. As for the dos-age of Oxandrolone, 8-12 tablets in men and 5-6 tablets in women seem to bring the best results. The rule of thumb to take 0.125 mg/pound of body weight daily has proven successful in clinical tests. The tablets are normally taken two to three times daily after meals thus assuring an optimal absorption of the substance. Those who get the already discussed gastrointestinal pain when taking Oxandrolone are better off taking the tablets one to two hours after a meal or switching to another compound.
Since Oxandrolone is only slightly toxic and usually shows few side effects it is used by several athletes over a prolonged period of time. However Oxandrolone should not be taken for several consecutive months, since, as with almost all oral steroids it is 1 7-alpha alky-lated and thus liver toxic. Oxandrolone is an all-purpose remedy which, depending on the athlete's goal, is very versatile. Women who react sensitively to the intake of anabolic steroids achieve good results when combining Oxandrolone/Primobolan Tabs and/or Clenbuterol, without suffering from the usual virilization symp-toms. Women, however, should not take more than 6 tablets daily. otherwise, androgenic-caused side effects such as acne, deep voice, clitorial hypertrophy or increased growth of body hair can occur.
Probably the largest disadvantages that come along with Oxandrolone are its high price and poor availability on the black market. Original Oxandrolone costs about $1 - 2 per tablet on the black market and is rarely avail-able, if at all.
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