Tweetenan 400mg 1-11
deca 400mg 1-10
winny 50mg ed 8-13
tren 75 mg eod 8-13
arim .25 ed 1-16
clen 2weeks on/off
eca 2weeks off /on

LOOSE THE DECA!!!!!!!! Not only is it more for bulking BUT TREN + DECA= disaster!

Also, regarding your diet.........maybe try 60/20/20 instead. Lowering your carbs (a little ) gets most people leaner

TweetBy the way.......replace the test enth with some test prop too!

TweetOne more thing.......run the winny and the tren LONGER!!!!!!!!

I'm done

Tweetbromo ed since this is a cutting cycle imo the armi should keep the bloat down pretty good but i do not see deca causing that much bloat and test at that dose with the dex you will be fine and if you can hit the tren at ed inj at 75mg it will harden you up big time

Tweetme personally,i'd switch the enan. with prop.,switch deca for eq,fina is fine

TweetDrveejay11

when you say longer on the tren/ winny, how much longer?
i got it going 6 weeks now, should i go 8 or more?
i wanted the deca for the joint pain that comes with winny
the winny will help against the tren (prog) gyno, if any
bromo for just in case. Give me more feedback on this deca/ tren disaster. i went with enan because of cost
i had to save for this cycle forever!

jack hust

I read some where(XXL at AR i think said something on it) that it helps in cutting. what dose? i got the 2.5mg How many a day? It will also help with the deca/tren (prog) gyno I have never had to deal with any type of gyno, but i also never want to deal with it.

Tweettrue, i was not thinking about the joint pain

Tweet2.5 mg ed will be all you need yes it will help keep away prog gyno and i have taken deca at 400mg week and tren at 75 mg ed with no gyno everyone is diff that is why i would take the bromo also because you can stop the tren and it will clear out of you rsystem fast but the deca my freind can take 4-6 weeks so just be careful and remember deca it best at 2mg per pound of body mass sides /gains ie if your are 200lbs then 400mgs of deca per week and some people think whinny helps fight deca and tren gyno but i dont know

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Originally posted by growing32
Drveejay11
when you say longer on the tren/ winny, how much longer?

Tren= the whole time (start to ffinish)
Winny=begin right after the d-bol and continue until end of cycle

Originally posted by growing32
I got it going 6 weeks now, should i go 8 or more??

If you could run the tren and the winny for 8 weeks, I think you will love this cycle a whole lot more! Sometimes, it takes up to 3 weeks for people to even notice tren.

Originally posted by growing32
I wanted the deca for the joint pain that comes with winny
the winny will help against the tren (prog) gyno, if any
bromo for just in case. Give me more feedback on this deca/ tren disaster.??

I gotcha........I still say screw the deca (if you ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET RIPPED). You can either tough it out with the joint pain or take:
1) Chondrotin Sulfate
2)Glucosamine Sulfate
3) MSM

These supps usually don't kick in until about 4-6 weeks or so (sometimes 2 months) so get started on these before the Winny part of the cycle.

TweetDeca/Tren Disaster: in theory; they both convert to progestin. This is a big problem for users of these trying to avoid progestin-induced gyno(some people are lucky enough to not get it).

Running both of these AS would increase your chances of getting Progestin-induced gyno. So, it serves many well to avoid this double-assault and therefore many choose to pick one or the other!

Bromo: 2.5 mg/day in 2 divided doses (don't take it too late at night, you'll probably have some issues going to sleep------God knows Tren already does this!!!!!)

Also, be sure to educate yourself on the sides of Bromo......they can be fun!

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Originally posted by Drveejay11
Also, be sure to educate yourself on the sides of Bromo......they can be fun!

Here you go, it's a start:

https://www.qfac.com/bromo.html

TweetI didnt expect the debate on the deca, i did expect some words on the tren/deca together, due to the increase chance of prog gyno. I thought with the winny and bromo, i had prepared for the prog gyno if it accured. I know prop is the choice for cutting due to its lack of causing water bloat, but for me it is out of my reach due to funds. So should i hold off on the cycle to save for the prop? My vote is no, but i am not here to be stupid, if others can give some input on this, that why i am here, to listen and learn and then make an educated decision on what is best for me. I will be adding the bromo, even if the cylce changes. i am thankful to all you who replied, it helps me to look futher into what i might like to do,

i would hope other will contribute to this as well, feedback, for or against, is priceless to me

TweetIF YOU HAVE A LEGIT SOURCE YOU CAN SELL YOUR ENTH ON STREET OR IN GYM FOR MORE THAN YOU PAID FOR IT AND GET ENOUGH TO PAY FOR PROP