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      ive heard a lot of talk of using anti-estrogens not primarily as a gyno preventative but to improve muscle hardness and quality..i do not believe my estrogen levels are out of the ordinary though my nips have always been puffy> nothing that would cause you to say "hey nice ***** tits faggot!"...ya know...im just wondering if adding an anti estrogen such as nolva or proviron where it isn't needed (im running winny and eq) would help me get even harder.....around this time I train to get as lean as possilble while keeping proportioned, maintaining as much muscle as possilble so i don't fall flat.....will this help me stay freaky hard?...what do ya think boys...........right now im 195 at 9% and 5'10

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      liquidex is good for hardening up while cutting.
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      Yes any estrogen blocker would help you harden up...
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      bummmmmmmp

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      Well they basically answered it for you bro. Yes it can definately help you to harden up by limiting excess water retension caused by the estrogen as well as decrease possible increased fat retension as well.
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      yeah im satisfied....what dosage would be good w/ nolvadex..i get it for free so its my first choice...

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      I'd like to know the best Anti E's to use in this situation.

      1) Harden up
      2) Prevent Gyno
      3) Decrease water retention

      And what dose + how long (ex throughout cycle and +5 weeks)

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      Considering using Deca/ Sust weeks 1-7 EQ/Winny 8-14

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      Originally posted by AceDaBoss
      Considering using Deca/ Sust weeks 1-7 EQ/Winny 8-14
      you should def have anti-E's on hand w/ that

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      Originally posted by AceDaBoss
      Considering using Deca/ Sust weeks 1-7 EQ/Winny 8-14
      How many mg of deca and sus are you using a week? When it comes to side effects everyone is different. Some are real sensitive while others are not. Just in case though it's a good idea to have anti-estrogens on hand.

      The best to use IMO are a combo of anti-estrogens and anti-aromatise. The anti-a to prevent excess conversion of test to estrogen and the anti-e to prevent the excess estrogen that has converted from doing it's negative effects. As well anti-e's have a positive effect on cholesterol levels whereas anti-a's have a negative effect.
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      Originally posted by Manic Behavior
      liquidex is good for hardening up while cutting.

      but you have to watch the cholesterol levels though...

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      femera should have the least affect on cholesterol.
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      I never had a problem with cholesterol but never had any liver problems either when I drank at clubs and bars all the time poppin pain pills! So who knows maybe I am lucky!

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