TweetI did not know there was a cyp ester of this. I would assume it would be like masteron. It may be fairly weak anabolic ally but is a strong androgenic and hardens muscles well and great strength gains.

Tweetso dose it like mast

TweetI would guess bro. I love mast when on a TRT dose of test. It is like a test enhancer. I run a half dose of the mast compared to the test you can get away with even 1/3.

Oddly if I go over 1/2 I get estro sides which I am very sensitive to. I think is because the mast has a stronger affinity for the androgen receptor and leaves a lot more free test which can aromatase. I do 10 mg of nolva ever 3 days and my muscles harden up nicely.

Another benefit of a strong androgen. They tend to suppress SHBG. More free test or whatever other compound you use.

TweetCool thanks for your input

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Originally Posted by jipped genes

I would guess bro. I love mast when on a TRT dose of test. It is like a test enhancer. I run a half dose of the mast compared to the test you can get away with even 1/3.

Oddly if I go over 1/2 I get estro sides which I am very sensitive to. I think is because the mast has a stronger affinity for the androgen receptor and leaves a lot more free test which can aromatase. I do 10 mg of nolva ever 3 days and my muscles harden up nicely.

Another benefit of a strong androgen. They tend to suppress SHBG. More free test or whatever other compound you use.

yes it does free up a little test but also has some anti estro affinity to it. kind of interesting you get estro sides with it. def interesting for sure when it is supposed to do the opposite. crazy how different everyone is

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Originally Posted by guns01

yes it does free up a little test but also has some anti estro affinity to it. kind of interesting you get estro sides with it. def interesting for sure when it is supposed to do the opposite. crazy how different everyone is

Yeah it is only because it leaves more free test which has the ability to aromatize. Some people aromatize sex hormones at diff rates. I unfortunately cannot run 200 mg of test without anti Es or I get gyno.

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Originally Posted by jipped genes

Yeah it is only because it leaves more free test which has the ability to aromatize. Some people aromatize sex hormones at diff rates. I unfortunately cannot run 200 mg of test without anti Es or I get gyno.

Interesting jipped, so your saying if your running 200mgtest you add 65mg (roughly) to that or theoretically use 130ish test 65-70mg mast?

Next question would be mast ace or ent?


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TweetE.

I started running it due to minor gyno. from my T. I told my TRT doc when my gyno flared up a couple weeks after starting. I do not get it, I have always been told Mast was a mild anti E.

He prescribed me aromasin.

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Originally Posted by 6p6

Interesting jipped, so your saying if your running 200mgtest you add 65mg (roughly) to that or theoretically use 130ish test 65-70mg mast?

Next question would be mast ace or ent?


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i think jipped may be an old ball on this one man. i can hop on 600t 300 mast and within 4-5 weeks my estro will tick down at least 8-12 points. i have seen other people's go down much more even on lower end dosing with higher test but that has usually been with guys older than we are. i think mast p is a better option to keep it more stable though with eod dosing. that way it doesnt go up and down so bad on you. great option as long as prostate isnt an issue

TweetMy name says it all. I am jipped. If it can go wrong with me, I assure you it will but I just keep plugging along brother.