Re: 20yr Vets and longer opinions wanted on TRT
so for starters you doc is a complete dumb ass. well let me back up. if you are getting cyp or enth then he is a freaking fool and i see this with friends of mine more often than not. so the only way that you can do the 2x per month dose is with test under or however you spell it. it is the longest acting test you can get. when they do that one they figure out how much you need for the month and give you one large shot of 8 or 900 at one time. i have a frined that is doing that one as well since he cant get the implants anymore. so if it is the test u then you are good if it is one of the others then no, you are peaking and crashing. a very close friend of mine and my off and on training partner was getting it from a normal doc on base after he retired. they started him at 200mg test c every other week. then they would pull labs and he would still be single digits on his total test. they capped him out at 400 every 2 weeks and he still comes back around 150. these fools are to stupid to figure out that at most and it is a stretch, that test c and e are completely out of your system in 10 days. most people peak at 3-5 days. so at 10 days it most likely is completely out of your system.
Originally Posted by Pellethead
so i like you have been in the game for well over 20 years and actively competing the entire time. i brougt on a good doc about 10 years or so ago that handled my hrt as well as keeping me healthy with the other heavy stuff. he had me at 200 cyp per week to keep me right around 5-600 on hrt. right in the middle of normal range. he sold his practice and i was stuck. so i tried out the va and used them for a little while. only do bloods every 6 months etc.. they carried my 200 cyp per week for a while then i got a new doc that said it was to much even though labs were perfect, so he tried the every other week bull shit and my numbers tanked again well i figured i have a script so i am street legal so i will just get it for free from them and then just do my own thing. covid hit and since they wouldnt let me go in for labs they didnt consider necessary they dropped script.
so long story short this was a blessing in disguise for me. a good friend of mine was friends with a doc that specialized in hormones as well as his general practice. dude is a competitor/athlete and very well educated in all the stuff we do. made a appointment got in had labs done the right way and he got me at 300mg a week now to keep me between 5-600 total test and just under 200 free test. he was livid about the every 2 week bull shit and how they handle fixing and optimizing hormones. i freaking love the dude and he takes damn good care of me. only down side is i have to drive about 3 hours to see him but that is only every 3 months unless i need something looked at in person.
so moral of the story is: 1- he is fucking you and messing you up with horribly fluctuating levels 2- you may have to travel and look around to find a good doc that knows what he is doing. if you want to test the docs knowledge, ask him if he will give you low dose cialis at 5-10mg daily for bph. tell him you are up a and down all night peeing. if he says it is from the test then he is full of shit because your levels arent even close enough to being in range to mess with your prostate. even if every bit of it converted to dht
my insurance covers all my stuff also but i did have 3 reading in a row that were double and single digits. so i wasnt even close to having anywhere near normal numbers
cool thing i learned from my doc last time i saw him. i had gotten covid and didnt take any test or any of my meds at all. he told me that was a huge mistake because the research coming out now is that rock bottom test is far more harmful to your cardio system than even having super high test is. he did pull me back to 200 while all my blood counts and clotting factors were elevated but that only lasted a month post. dude is crazy smart and stays on top of all the new research and tricks of the trade. he is really big on micro dosing daily while on hrt also. he say regardless if you are low dose or high dose keeping levels as stable as possible is the healthiest most effective way to prevent issues and side effects. either sug q or im doesnt matter
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