TweetYou can certainly cut with that. Tren ace and winny together is likely to make you feel bad. At least I had to stop 2 weeks in with that combo. Your lipid profile will also be crushed!

Some guys prefer prop over a long ester test. I prefer less pins in me. At that dose you should not have estrogenic sides. I would deal more with the tren and the progestin sides. The letro will prevent gyno from estrogens but but will not help with the tren until the progestins are turned to estrogen enzymatically.

I would run a low dose of caber with the tren. The winny has a mild anti E effect that will do fine at that dose. I do not think you will have any probs not running the letro.

As for the proviron, I would run it with any cycle. It like winny is a mild anti E but has an affinity to bind to SHBG which allows more free test to assert upon the androgen receptor.

I have not cycled in 15 years and things have changed but this is my $.02

TweetHow much caber should I run with the tren?

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TweetI also have armidex on hand which I have never used before either...but that is something you would run the whole cycle at like 0.5mg twice a week?

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How much caber should I run with the tren?

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I also have armidex on hand which I have never used before either...but that is something you would run the whole cycle at like 0.5mg twice a week?

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so cycle looks good for a good lean run. now some pointers and ways to offset some issues. for starters dont use either the dex letro or caber unless you need them according to blood work or if you are trying to get stage ready. need bloods for prolactin for the caber and estro for the dex or letro. if you are trying to get down into the low single digits then a estro killer is needed to absolutely crush estro(which for a normal leaning out run isnt and it causes side effects in itself) so i personally wouldnt add in either the estro killers or caber unless absolutely needed because of the sides and they arent necessary unless issues arise. so you are looking at tren winny var and possibly dex/letro and caber. all of them hammer the liver and lipids big time. with the anti e and var driving your hdl down to single digits and ldl through the roof. their are safe ways to do it without having issues.

adding in some tudca with nac for the liver for the duration of the run. also adding in a supplement called nialor for lipid protection along with a solid fish oil that's ligit. cardio is also a plus and keeping your as healthy as possible during this run. leaning out cycles and contest prep runs are usually some of the harshest shit we do all year round and adding in as much protection as possible is a must to be safe. getting a good cycle support supplenent also is a good idea on top of the tudca and nialor. lots of greens and fiber is also very helpful.

as for the provi it can be ran pretty safely for the most part at 60-100 ed but dont expect anything dramatic with it. it will give some very minor anti estro properties a little hardening and clear out receptors a little bit. it can also boost sex drive as well

TweetWould taking out the winny help ease this cycle a little better? I've reacted well to Tren before with no issues.

And also for pct...hcg...how much to take per day/week?

Thanks for the great info so far guys

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TweetBro I use caber at 0.5mg every 4 days if you feel the start of any nip probs go to every 3 days. I doubt you will have probs with 4 at that dose.

Tren, winny, and var all crush lipids. Might as well leave it and like Gins said NAC and Tudca for liver. I would also do Berberine and green tea extract. These will "help" lower LDL a few points. Continue after cycle for 2 months to get that LDL back under control. I assume you will be doing a bunch of cardio for cutting, this will help increase HDL some.

TweetJust a question regarding caber...how much and how often would you need to use it if nip problems did occur during the tren? I live in Canada and for 8 stinking pills @.5mg it's $150.00 lol. Damn that's expensive shit haha

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Just a question regarding caber...how much and how often would you need to use it if nip problems did occur during the tren? I live in Canada and for 8 stinking pills @.5mg it's $150.00 lol. Damn that's expensive shit haha

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you could do prami instead of caber if needed. idk how much cheaper it is up that way but it is much cheaper here. it does cause some people issues though. i am still a firm believer in not using anything unless bloods show it to be necessary after sides come on. the mind is a powerful thing and i think a lot of people convince themselves they have an issue and they actually dont. some dudes will squeeze and pull on their nipples being paranoid and think its some form of gyno

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Or maybe Bromocriptine? It might be cheaper.

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Doing a little cutting cycle starting in March just wanted some feedback or opinions.

Test Enth...500mg/week....weeks 1-12
Anavar...60mg/day...weeks 1-6
Tren Ace...50mg eod...weeks 6-12
Winny...60mg/day...weeks 6-12

Going to run some Letro (1.25mg every other day during the tren ace...so weeks 6-12.
Also have some Proviron on hand...never ran it before? should i throw it in and which weeks/dosages?

PCT:
Clomid...50/50/25/25
Nolva...40/40/20/20
HCG...never have ran it before so looking at dosage advice please?

Thanks in advance

I hate the term I'm doing a cutting cycle or I'm doing a bulking cycle you can cut on any drug and you can bulk on any drug it all depends on how much you eat and how you train. the cycle you got laid out there I don't know why you would put the end of our in you're using ten a and Winny tabs I don't see a purpose for Anavar. Winny injectable is so much better BTW.

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Originally Posted by Polish Prince

Doing a little cutting cycle starting in March just wanted some feedback or opinions.

Test Enth...500mg/week....weeks 1-12
Anavar...60mg/day...weeks 1-6
Tren Ace...50mg eod...weeks 6-12
Winny...60mg/day...weeks 6-12

Going to run some Letro (1.25mg every other day during the tren ace...so weeks 6-12.
Also have some Proviron on hand...never ran it before? should i throw it in and which weeks/dosages?

PCT:
Clomid...50/50/25/25
Nolva...40/40/20/20
HCG...never have ran it before so looking at dosage advice please?

Thanks in advance

I just joined back after 2 years that it won't let me write a whole lot so that's why I'm writing this in a couple of posts. the entity is fine you don't have to use a shorter Esther you could cut underneath testosterone testosterone is testosterone I mean the probe is out of you a little quicker but are a lot quicker but it really doesn't matter you can get caught on anything that more matters if you do in a contest and you want the stuff out of you out of you so any little bit of water is gone.
as for the letro I really wouldn't advise it. you have nothing in there that aromatizes a whole bunch why would you use letro?? since you already have proviron you should just get noveldex and use both proviron and tamoxifen.

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Originally Posted by Polish Prince

Doing a little cutting cycle starting in March just wanted some feedback or opinions.

Test Enth...500mg/week....weeks 1-12
Anavar...60mg/day...weeks 1-6
Tren Ace...50mg eod...weeks 6-12
Winny...60mg/day...weeks 6-12

Going to run some Letro (1.25mg every other day during the tren ace...so weeks 6-12.
Also have some Proviron on hand...never ran it before? should i throw it in and which weeks/dosages?

PCT:
Clomid...50/50/25/25
Nolva...40/40/20/20
HCG...never have ran it before so looking at dosage advice please?

Thanks in advance

letro is by far strong as a ID make it's really too strong to use as a regular component of a cycle. unless you're going to get blood tests every 2 days to make sure you're asking them isn't crashing I don't see why you would use that. personally I stay away from all their eyes I use noveldex.
there is no doubt that higher estrogen levels and higher testosterone levels allow your body to grow better than higher testosterone levels with low estrogen levels which is what happens when you take AIS. also with an AI you always have to worry about your estrogen crashing and there are so many bad ramifications if that happens. if you use nov and proviron you will not get gyno, it's a myth. that estrogen will, by itself cause tons of water retention.


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Originally Posted by Polish Prince

Doing a little cutting cycle starting in March just wanted some feedback or opinions.

Test Enth...500mg/week....weeks 1-12
Anavar...60mg/day...weeks 1-6
Tren Ace...50mg eod...weeks 6-12
Winny...60mg/day...weeks 6-12

Going to run some Letro (1.25mg every other day during the tren ace...so weeks 6-12.
Also have some Proviron on hand...never ran it before? should i throw it in and which weeks/dosages?

PCT:
Clomid...50/50/25/25
Nolva...40/40/20/20
HCG...never have ran it before so looking at dosage advice please?

Thanks in advance

I guess my final recommendation would be if you can get rid of the anavar get rid of it I don't know why you're taking it it's not going to add much if you're stuck with it I guess take it. I would much rather use injectable windtrol, IMO it's almost double as strong mg to mg.
TREN A is such a good day burner by itself you could have just used that and test with noveldex and proviron. Lastly throw in a little T3, as little as 12.5 mcgs it makes a big difference.

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