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Originally Posted by pgc640

lol, I have been saying the same thing for like 5 years now. I will never use an AI unless I competed like you said and then I would use it at the very end the last few weeks to lower my estrogen tremendously but only for a few weeks. I have been saying exactly what you wrote that higher estrogen plus higher testosterone equals way more gains than higher testosterone and low estrogen or no estrogen if you don't know what the hell you're doing and you're taking too much of this shit. you can use tamoxifen only and control gyno without messing with your estro.

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yo it really amazes me how similar you and I think and that we're in the same age group and for been around this scene pretty much the same amount of time. that's stupid evolutionary.org board I tried that was horrible you go on there they pretty much make you think you have to take an AI with every cycle you like it's necessary. when the whole time it's detrimental

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yo it really amazes me how similar you and I think and that we're in the same age group and for been around this scene pretty much the same amount of time. that's stupid evolutionary.org board I tried that was horrible you go on there they pretty much make you think you have to take an AI with every cycle you like it's necessary. when the whole time it's detrimental

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man, i try to help people out but i have pretty much quit entirely except for on here. i have also pretty much shut down coaching all together because i cant handle the dumb shit and stupid people. dudes telling me at 21-24 that they are running 3-4g of oils on top of tabs with ai peps and sarms. when i tell them they are morons and on your 1st 2d or 3d cycle that running that high is pointless. hell one dude was running 3g which consisted of 2g of test and 1g of tren on his very 1st cycle and i bet you a paycheck that moron was every bit 30% or more of bodyfat with tities. i am blown away at no one thinking or believing that it takes time and you buildup to higher end dosing and make the small amounts work early on. more muscle and time equals more need for aas in most cases.
then again i had a 23 year old dumb ass tell me he was getting ready to turn pro at the usas in 3 weeks. dude is pretty wide lat wise but has no delts no arms and tiny ass legs and when he turns to the side he disappears. oh but he says i have a 25in waist. thats all cool and dandy my friend but you are smooth as a babies ass have zero depth and you pretty much suck but good on you for being confident but when you stand next to that black dude with the beautiful lines and symetry who is peeled to the bone, you are going to be embarrassed. oh wait the excuse for these guys now is they got robbed or over looked. not that you cant look at the other dude and be like damn i need a ton of more work. i just cant do it. i pick and choose who i work with and only come here where level heads prevail

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man, i try to help people out but i have pretty much quit entirely except for on here. i have also pretty much shut down coaching all together because i cant handle the dumb shit and stupid people. dudes telling me at 21-24 that they are running 3-4g of oils on top of tabs with ai peps and sarms. when i tell them they are morons and on your 1st 2d or 3d cycle that running that high is pointless. hell one dude was running 3g which consisted of 2g of test and 1g of tren on his very 1st cycle and i bet you a paycheck that moron was every bit 30% or more of bodyfat with tities. i am blown away at no one thinking or believing that it takes time and you buildup to higher end dosing and make the small amounts work early on. more muscle and time equals more need for aas in most cases.
then again i had a 23 year old dumb ass tell me he was getting ready to turn pro at the usas in 3 weeks. dude is pretty wide lat wise but has no delts no arms and tiny ass legs and when he turns to the side he disappears. oh but he says i have a 25in waist. thats all cool and dandy my friend but you are smooth as a babies ass have zero depth and you pretty much suck but good on you for being confident but when you stand next to that black dude with the beautiful lines and symetry who is peeled to the bone, you are going to be embarrassed. oh wait the excuse for these guys now is they got robbed or over looked. not that you cant look at the other dude and be like damn i need a ton of more work. i just cant do it. i pick and choose who i work with and only come here where level heads prevail

of course you're 100% right a thousand milligrams of trying if someone told me that they were using that and they look like shit and they were in their early twenties I wouldn't even let them finish I would turn my back and walk away that's ridiculous. Trent is five times as anabolic is testosterone so that's the equivalent of taking 5,000 mg testosterone a week. the first time I used trenn was in the form of Parabolan.

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Originally Posted by pgc640

of course you're 100% right a thousand milligrams of trying if someone told me that they were using that and they look like shit and they were in their early twenties I wouldn't even let them finish I would turn my back and walk away that's ridiculous. Trent is five times as anabolic is testosterone so that's the equivalent of taking 5,000 mg testosterone a week. the first time I used trenn was in the form of Parabolan.

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parabolan was tren hex. it came and ampules of 76.5 mg per annual. it was the most popular drug that anybody could get their hands on and it was hard to get because everybody wanted it. nobody took more than 2 a week which is equal to 153 mg 153 mg nobody takes that lower dose now. however back in the early 90s late '80s 153 mg of tren was the best drug out there by far. 153 mg is equal to 875 mg of testosterone people are taking way too much of this stuff.

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parabolan was tren hex. it came and ampules of 76.5 mg per annual. it was the most popular drug that anybody could get their hands on and it was hard to get because everybody wanted it. nobody took more than 2 a week which is equal to 153 mg 153 mg nobody takes that lower dose now. however back in the early 90s late '80s 153 mg of tren was the best drug out there by far. 153 mg is equal to 875 mg of testosterone people are taking way too much of this stuff.

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and you're 100% right the only people I really hope now are women and usually bikini competitors. because they tend to listen, they don't want to take steroids because they don't want to turn into a man so the only thing I use with them is anavar no more than 20 mg, t3, t4, clan and if they can afford HGH. then I get them on a good diet a good training program and a couple weeks I could see if they have potential or not.
train one girl down in Florida from the spring last year all the way through July I guess the last year I think it was last year or two years ago the best genetics I've ever seen in anybody man or female. I have a friend that lives by her she lives in Tampa her name is Belinda hope she's a ifbb figure professional so I had them meet at a gym and work out together just because I thought she could be a good influence on her. that night Linda texted me and said you do realize you have a little crow in that girl of yours. I laughed and I said why do you think I sent it to you. so it wasn't just me she looks so much better than everybody else that it was clear even to trainrd eye.

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and you're 100% right the only people I really hope now are women and usually bikini competitors. because they tend to listen, they don't want to take steroids because they don't want to turn into a man so the only thing I use with them is anavar no more than 20 mg, t3, t4, clan and if they can afford HGH. then I get them on a good diet a good training program and a couple weeks I could see if they have potential or not.
train one girl down in Florida from the spring last year all the way through July I guess the last year I think it was last year or two years ago the best genetics I've ever seen in anybody man or female. I have a friend that lives by her she lives in Tampa her name is Belinda hope she's a ifbb figure professional so I had them meet at a gym and work out together just because I thought she could be a good influence on her. that night Linda texted me and said you do realize you have a little crow in that girl of yours. I laughed and I said why do you think I sent it to you. so it wasn't just me she looks so much better than everybody else that it was clear even to trainrd eye.

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unfortunately about 11:00 12 weeks into our training she ruptured her ACL she was only like 6 weeks away from doing her first contest which is going to be a local contest I was going to have her do three local contests which you would have decimated everybody easily. then we were going to start getting ready for national show the next year I mean she needed to put on some muscle which you never tried to do before but a year we would have been able to do it and when she put on some muscle on her arms on the outside sweep of her legs got that X shape a little better she definitely could have turned pro. I'll post a picture below it's a picture I made into four little blocks the top left of the picture is before we started training the picture on the right top right and top bottom or only about 4 weeks after that that's how much he changed in 4 weeks and the picture on the top on the bottom left is 7 or 8 weeks after we started training she went from the top left to the bottom left in less than 2 months.



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unfortunately about 11:00 12 weeks into our training she ruptured her ACL she was only like 6 weeks away from doing her first contest which is going to be a local contest I was going to have her do three local contests which you would have decimated everybody easily. then we were going to start getting ready for national show the next year I mean she needed to put on some muscle which you never tried to do before but a year we would have been able to do it and when she put on some muscle on her arms on the outside sweep of her legs got that X shape a little better she definitely could have turned pro. I'll post a picture below it's a picture I made into four little blocks the top left of the picture is before we started training the picture on the right top right and top bottom or only about 4 weeks after that that's how much he changed in 4 weeks and the picture on the top on the bottom left is 7 or 8 weeks after we started training she went from the top left to the bottom left in less than 2 months.



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but yeah in all those posts I basically just said yeah I agree with you 100%. anybody stupid enough to take a thousand milligrams of trend and 3,000 mg of test I want nothing to do with the guy and if he won't listen and realize what he's doing is detrimental to his goal then he needs to do it by himself. by the way I separated my post into a bunch of little post because for some reason on the app I'm using it will not let me post longer posts.

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