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Originally Posted by Arx International

Inject 10iu hgh..take blood test 3hrs after injection...this will tell you if your hgh is real !

some ghrps and gh releasing peps will skew these results nowadays man. better off doing a base line igf test before starting then running gh for 30-45 days, no training before bloods 72 hours and then test igf numbers. if they are higher then your gh is legit if they arent then bunk. only way to actually test it out in reality. the reason behind not training for 72 is to keep from elevating the igf numbers as a result of training. tren can also raise them a bit as well but not as dramatically as gh does

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Originally Posted by guns01

some ghrps and gh releasing peps will skew these results nowadays man. better off doing a base line igf test before starting then running gh for 30-45 days, no training before bloods 72 hours and then test igf numbers. if they are higher then your gh is legit if they arent then bunk. only way to actually test it out in reality. the reason behind not training for 72 is to keep from elevating the igf numbers as a result of training. tren can also raise them a bit as well but not as dramatically as gh does

Good point guns...I wonder how drastic some peptides can elevate your #s ?
While not taking hgh...also makes me wonder all these new hgh around if it’s actually hgh or a blend of hgh and peps etc?

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Originally Posted by Arx International

Good point guns...I wonder how drastic some peptides can elevate your #s ?
While not taking hgh...also makes me wonder all these new hgh around if it’s actually hgh or a blend of hgh and peps etc?

an actual ghrp that is dosed as labeled will give you the exact same numbers on a gh serum that 10ius of gh will. so the smart dirty cheating fucks will use that to screw you thinking you will only run gh serum and not do the base igf and then retest it again after 45 days to see how well it is peaked. ghrps will not peak you the same way that gh does because they only boost your gh output for a very short period of time. so their will be no build up of igf present in the blood after 45 days. even if you shoot another full bottle of ghrp the morning of your igf testing it will only bump it up a few points at best

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Originally Posted by guns01

some ghrps and gh releasing peps will skew these results nowadays man. better off doing a base line igf test before starting then running gh for 30-45 days, no training before bloods 72 hours and then test igf numbers. if they are higher then your gh is legit if they arent then bunk. only way to actually test it out in reality. the reason behind not training for 72 is to keep from elevating the igf numbers as a result of training. tren can also raise them a bit as well but not as dramatically as gh does

Have a question for you.
When do you feel is the best time to inject HGH? I've heard so many approachs regarding this.
Last I used it was taking it immediately after workout waiting about 40 minutes before using some insulin and eating?

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Originally Posted by pgc648

Have a question for you.
When do you feel is the best time to inject HGH? I've heard so many approachs regarding this.
Last I used it was taking it immediately after workout waiting about 40 minutes before using some insulin and eating?

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the protocol i used the last 2 years was log pre along with intra nutrition and then 6-10iu gh immediately post workout with a meal again as soon as i get home. now i had questions about surpressing blah blah blah. so from what i understand and i got this info from a top tier coach that i am friends with and work with is that the not causing an insulin spike or having insulin present is for peps and not for gh. gh/slin/thyroid hormomes are all synergistic in the mech that they work and mainly optimizing the gh/slin post workout is one of the best windows of action.

now something else to consider is multiple spikes if you want additional boosts like when you are growing naturally. like one first thing am post workout before bed and in the middle of the night. that's where i like to toss peps in there. mainly first thing am and before bed. i think it works really well and it was actually easier for me to get into shape this year than it has been in the past and i am old as fuck now haha