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      Got s friend asking for Winny for his next run. He said it would be less toxic then teen and if he adds deca he could bulk and shred all in one.
      From my experience after the first week my hands are in some serious pain.

      As far as the toxic part I sent him a link about it being toxic. But now he wants it even more.
      The other face is his last cycle that ended in October was
      Test and tren e and anadrol and he was peeing blood he last week of the cycle.

      Trying to find a safer stack for him to bulk and shred together.
      My first opinion was it's all about food but it went in one ear out the other lmao.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jolter604 View Post
      Got s friend asking for Winny for his next run. He said it would be less toxic then teen and if he adds deca he could bulk and shred all in one.
      From my experience after the first week my hands are in some serious pain.

      As far as the toxic part I sent him a link about it being toxic. But now he wants it even more.
      The other face is his last cycle that ended in October was
      Test and tren e and anadrol and he was peeing blood he last week of the cycle.

      Trying to find a safer stack for him to bulk and shred together.
      My first opinion was it's all about food but it went in one ear out the other lmao.

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      if he is pissing blood on the last run i wouldnt help him out at all until he had a full panel that is healthy for at least 8 weeks. pissing blood is a sure sign that his kidneys are fucked, also be curious as to how his bp looks. just remind him you can hammer your liver hard as hell and 99% of the time it will heal and come back. you do that shit to your kidneys and their is no fixing it. ask don long boston lyod and fouid as well. they destroyed their kidneys boston is dead (not really related but would have been) and the other too are screwed. you can take bp meds to protect your kidneys.

      so let's delve into the bulk/cutting compounds. in all reality their is no difference kind of. when people think of that that way they are thinking of water retention and that can be controlled with a good diet and cardio. so that is almost a moot point. same goes for aromatizing compounds. yeah you get a little estro raising up on you btu again with labs you can control it. and on a side not you cant really do both at the same time. you can slow lean gain but to call it a bulk is kind of a misnomer. you may only gain say 3-5lbs during a run if it is try lean mass.

      with someone that is that haphazard with their health, i wouldnt make any suggestions at all. go to the doc and get them to help you out because if not then he is most likely going to live a very short and painful life. my wife's step dad was on dialisis until he got a transplant and seeing what he went through and goes through even today is eye opening. he waited on a transplant for around 3 years too.
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      WINSTROL is great for whatever you are trying to accomplish. Putting on muscle or losing bf both.Yiy have to watch when you read about it being toxic to the liver. Remember there is an oral winstrol, which I would never use, that's the one that is liver toxic supposedly.
      The injectable winny is a lot better than the oral.
      50 mgs EOD or even just Non, Wd, and Fri works great for me.

      If he uses the water based WINSTROL tell him to get a bottle or a few of injectable B12. It can be painful but that depends on how well it's made. If you dilute it with B12 it about always cuts out any PIP. It is made in oil I've seen, never tried it. If it's the right compound oil based would probably be a less painful shot.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pgc640 View Post
      WINSTROL is great for whatever you are trying to accomplish. Putting on muscle or losing bf both.Yiy have to watch when you read about it being toxic to the liver. Remember there is an oral winstrol, which I would never use, that's the one that is liver toxic supposedly.
      The injectable winny is a lot better than the oral.
      50 mgs EOD or even just Non, Wd, and Fri works great for me.

      If he uses the water based WINSTROL tell him to get a bottle or a few of injectable B12. It can be painful but that depends on how well it's made. If you dilute it with B12 it about always cuts out any PIP. It is made in oil I've seen, never tried it. If it's the right compound oil based would probably be a less painful shot.

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      unfortunately for us normies that are sensitive girls injectable is out of the question. i have used zambons from south america i have used the vet grade stuff from back in the late 90s early 2000s and even oil based from various companies and the results are always the same. horrific pip and knots the size of softballs. i had one hit that was so bad that it damn near crippled me. i even mixed it with everything i could think of including sterile oil only and still. cant use test e either for that same matter. it's worse than test prop. so i have to opt for oral only, hell i drank the bottle of vet grade stuff i had years ago. funny thing is even the injectable is liver toxic. nowhere near as bad as oral but the compound is still 17aa and makes a single pass through the liver not 2. so you will see a little increase in liver enzymes bot not to bad. it is a great compound for sure
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      unfortunately for us normies that are sensitive girls injectable is out of the question. i have used zambons from south america i have used the vet grade stuff from back in the late 90s early 2000s and even oil based from various companies and the results are always the same. horrific pip and knots the size of softballs. i had one hit that was so bad that it damn near crippled me. i even mixed it with everything i could think of including sterile oil only and still. cant use test e either for that same matter. it's worse than test prop. so i have to opt for oral only, hell i drank the bottle of vet grade stuff i had years ago. funny thing is even the injectable is liver toxic. nowhere near as bad as oral but the compound is still 17aa and makes a single pass through the liver not 2. so you will see a little increase in liver enzymes bot not to bad. it is a great compound for sure
      zzJOLTE that's not true. You can easily mitigate any PIP from outside of Winstrol or even a shot of test suspension both of which pretty much the same there suspension mixed with water or the suspended in water You have to shake it up very well. And then it depends on how well it's made and how much PIP you're going to get The bigger the crystals are the more it's going to hurt the next day The smaller it may not hurt at all I had a pharmaceutical It's not pharmaceutical but it was veterinary grade 30 cc bottle ones and I could draw that through a 29 and I had no pain at all after that. Then I got another real bottle from Australia and you could not draw that with less than a 20 gauge It was horrible and they're thrown in the garbage.

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      I will write you on wicker tonight we can talk, catch up some. Hope all is well with you.

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      The last thing I say is your buddy I highly doubt him pissing blood is from Winstrol I had the same thing happen to me getting ready for my last contest woke up at 2:00 a.m. pissing the street blood. I talked to a marathon runner and he told me that happened to him every time he prepares for a marathon He gets so lean that even like fastening a weight belt can rupture something and end up with blood in his piss It went away the more I drank and it was gone. I'm not saying don't go to the doctor yeah for Cisco to the doctor but it might not be something to be concerned about.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pgc640 View Post
      WINSTROL is great for whatever you are trying to accomplish. Putting on muscle or losing bf both.Yiy have to watch when you read about it being toxic to the liver. Remember there is an oral winstrol, which I would never use, that's the one that is liver toxic supposedly.
      The injectable winny is a lot better than the oral.
      50 mgs EOD or even just Non, Wd, and Fri works great for me.

      If he uses the water based WINSTROL tell him to get a bottle or a few of injectable B12. It can be painful but that depends on how well it's made. If you dilute it with B12 it about always cuts out any PIP. It is made in oil I've seen, never tried it. If it's the right compound oil based would probably be a less painful shot.

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      I use Winstrol as a basis for about every other cycle. I do it for two reasons number one it's an incredibly awesome drug that builds strength and pure muscle not b******* muscle. Second of all I can get it for $30 a damn bottle It's so much cheaper than something like fremabolin and I think it's better. The problem is like people have said the PIP didn't know how to deal with I'm going to tell you how to deal with it. Dilute dilute dilute put one cc of wind straw in the syringe, the best thing to do is buy a bunch of B12 put two cc's or first try one cc of B12 and shooter if you're still having problems mix it with two and I guarantee that'll be enough. You could also do this with oil-based sterile grape seed oil that works also but the B12 is a lot easier cuz it mixes right in with the wind straws that's water-based. I was wondering if you do it with just straight benzyl alcohol or just sterile water and diluted that way but either way yeah I would dilute it I always dilute it because not all the time but sometimes the ones CC shot a wind straw yeah we'll be very painful the next day. But it's a f****** awesome drug for a very cheap price.

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      zzJOLTE that's not true. You can easily mitigate any PIP from outside of Winstrol or even a shot of test suspension both of which pretty much the same there suspension mixed with water or the suspended in water You have to shake it up very well. And then it depends on how well it's made and how much PIP you're going to get The bigger the crystals are the more it's going to hurt the next day The smaller it may not hurt at all I had a pharmaceutical It's not pharmaceutical but it was veterinary grade 30 cc bottle ones and I could draw that through a 29 and I had no pain at all after that. Then I got another real bottle from Australia and you could not draw that with less than a 20 gauge It was horrible and they're thrown in the garbage.

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      I got off topic The way you can avoid PIP all together is don't shoot more than one CC of Winstrol at a time I'm talking the 50 mg water based. Mix that with two cc's of B12. You can start with one cc and see how it goes That works for me sometimes it doesn't work for others to cc's always works in mitigates the pain the next day a whole lot sometimes totally. And I'm telling you that's the only drawback to Winstrol if you can handle the PIP or find a way to eliminate it You're talking about a drug you can get for $30 for 10 cc's I mean what $120 for a cycle of s***. It's better than primobolan and what are you going to spend on a cycle of primo,?

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      I got off topic The way you can avoid PIP all together is don't shoot more than one CC of Winstrol at a time I'm talking the 50 mg water based. Mix that with two cc's of B12. You can start with one cc and see how it goes That works for me sometimes it doesn't work for others to cc's always works in mitigates the pain the next day a whole lot sometimes totally. And I'm telling you that's the only drawback to Winstrol if you can handle the PIP or find a way to eliminate it You're talking about a drug you can get for $30 for 10 cc's I mean what $120 for a cycle of s***. It's better than primobolan and what are you going to spend on a cycle of primo,?

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      I never pinned Winny just took it orally. I can't last after two weeks at 50mg I feel like my hands are gonna explode. As far as pip I never had any pip issues even with dhb . I always just suggest adding another oil to thin down the pip.
      But this guy was thinking oral Winny was safe like anavar. But even anavar can get to the dark side of sides after being abused.

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      The last thing I say is your buddy I highly doubt him pissing blood is from Winstrol I had the same thing happen to me getting ready for my last contest woke up at 2:00 a.m. pissing the street blood. I talked to a marathon runner and he told me that happened to him every time he prepares for a marathon He gets so lean that even like fastening a weight belt can rupture something and end up with blood in his piss It went away the more I drank and it was gone. I'm not saying don't go to the doctor yeah for Cisco to the doctor but it might not be something to be concerned about.

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      That dude was on week like. 30 of test TREN and master e with superdrol here and there. And he was hitting the bars .


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      Quote Originally Posted by pgc640 View Post
      zzJOLTE that's not true. You can easily mitigate any PIP from outside of Winstrol or even a shot of test suspension both of which pretty much the same there suspension mixed with water or the suspended in water You have to shake it up very well. And then it depends on how well it's made and how much PIP you're going to get The bigger the crystals are the more it's going to hurt the next day The smaller it may not hurt at all I had a pharmaceutical It's not pharmaceutical but it was veterinary grade 30 cc bottle ones and I could draw that through a 29 and I had no pain at all after that. Then I got another real bottle from Australia and you could not draw that with less than a 20 gauge It was horrible and they're thrown in the garbage.

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      doesnt work man. like i said i have tried every single brand all the way back to the 90s. warmed it up, mixed it with b12 other oils even tried sterile oil for both water and suspended in oil. it turns into a huge soft ball knot every single time. test ent does the exact same thing. my body just doesnt tolerate it at all. doc said i have a reaction to it when it is done im and it could come from a number of different things. i even tried going deeper with a large gauge pin 21 and 22s 1.5in glute thigh and delt. all the exact same reaction. mixed it with eq test c mast and b12 on the other side no dice same issues. it is kind of cool to blow up the delts but those of us in the know, know what it is when it pops up like that. winny and test ent are the only 2 compounds that my body just does not accept. hell i have shot injectable drol/bol/tne and it didnt do that when most people have issues with that as well. no issues with those for me
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