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Originally Posted by pgc640

You pretty much agree with me on just about everything from what I've seen. I believe we are around the same age maybe that has something to do with it, experience.

Someone using Tren A for the first time can gain on 25 mgs a day. No doubt about that. It's just never a talked about dose so people automatically think 75, 100, 50 the lowest.

I, usually, if I use tren A(IMO Tren A is the best form of tren out there. The Hex going around I have tried and it is not at all the same thing as the old Negma parabolan. I have a very good friend who runs a fairly large manufacturing operation. He did explain to me the difference, what they have now, according to him is not the same exact drug that Negma sold under the name Parabolon. I'll ask him again and clarify that. The old Negma para is, by far, the best drug, period, I have ever used and all you needed was about 152 mgs a week). 25 mgs a day is 175 mgs of tren ace a week. If you are using it for the first time take that with 500 or so mgs of straight test, not a blend like sust, and maybe add an oral like dbol, anadrol, superdrol and you will grow like a weed. At 25 mgs a day it is very unlikely you get any of those, horrible, always talked about side effects that scare people away from Tren completely. For most, yes some are more sensitive, but for most even at 75 a day you should tolerate it pretty well. Once you get into the 100 mg a day range is when most start getting the sides you hear about but not everyone. It all depends on your body though so Guns is correct. Do a run with just 25 mgs a day, see how you handle it. If you are fine you can try 50 the next time. That may be all you need. Tren is usually taken at too high of a dose so your best bet is to start very low and figure out what dose is optimal for you. The goal should be to find the dose at which you get the best gains without getting side effects that are so bothersome they affect your life.

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not many of us still running around with experience of actual para. 76mg m w f and call it a day. the feel and how your body changes is unbelievable. i was lucky enough to do tours around the med when you could still roll into the pharms and buy it. got so bad that when we started low we would run half dose m w f just to make the amps last longer haha. not that i would attempt it today but we used to bring back 100s of amps with us off of deployments. man those were the days

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Originally Posted by guns01

not many of us still running around with experience of actual para. 76mg m w f and call it a day. the feel and how your body changes is unbelievable. i was lucky enough to do tours around the med when you could still roll into the pharms and buy it. got so bad that when we started low we would run half dose m w f just to make the amps last longer haha. not that i would attempt it today but we used to bring back 100s of amps with us off of deployments. man those were the days

Damn, I'm not sure how much I would pay for a hundred amps of old parabolan. I would go pretty high though.
Awesome drug.

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Originally Posted by pgc640

Damn, I'm not sure how much I would pay for a hundred amps of old parabolan. I would go pretty high though.
Awesome drug.

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back in those days over there the were only about 4-6 bucks a piece haha. you could get the sust and 2ml organon deca bottles for 1-2 bucks as well. greece spain and croatia were the best. some middle eastern countries were also good to go. a little harder in france but do able same with italy. you can probably still do it today but in most countries if one of your buddies dont speak the language all you had to do was find a good cab driver give him 50 bucks and promise to use him the whole time you were there and they would go in and buy you anything you wanted

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back in those days over there the were only about 4-6 bucks a piece haha. you could get the sust and 2ml organon deca bottles for 1-2 bucks as well. greece spain and croatia were the best. some middle eastern countries were also good to go. a little harder in france but do able same with italy. you can probably still do it today but in most countries if one of your buddies dont speak the language all you had to do was find a good cab driver give him 50 bucks and promise to use him the whole time you were there and they would go in and buy you anything you wanted

The biggest place that I knew guys , dealers, were actually flying to then mailing back stuff was some country called Andorra?? I think it is somewhere near France. I have no idea if its still possible get anything there but then I had been told it was, by far, the best place to go.

But, I did know there were many countries you could just buy Pharma grade stuff at ridiculously low prices. There still are just not as many.

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