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Originally Posted by PUMPED

Truth be told I ran some tren E last year and it worked great bro. Being in my 40's and because it worked so well I am just playing it safe.

Yeah, I'm 51 and 200mg tren E, 200mg Mast E weekly. No sides, great results.

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Originally Posted by thedoctorherb

Yeah, I'm 51 and 200mg tren E, 200mg Mast E weekly. No sides, great results.

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Most of the time, unless it's a high strung, already violent, quick to flip, guy it can be tolerated well at a reasonable but still effective dose.
EFFECTIVE DOSE. What I see being used is usually just too much. Tren is very, very strong. I consider 100 mgs a day a ridiculously high dose and of course you will deal with all the bullshit side effects. Try, using, acetate, 50 mgs every other day. Just try it. If it's a good, correctly dosed product you will be shocked at the gains you will make with little to no sides. People react so differently to everything but I have never seen that dose not work.
The Enanthate, 300 MGS a week. Parabolen, I really have no idea. I am old enough that I have used the real, Negma Parabolen. 76.5 MGS per amp. 2 Amps a week and you grew like a weed. The stuff going around now is not the same thing.


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TweetI Love Tren !!!
I use it now. The pumps and strength are amazing!
I get really irritable, but that’s okay!
I just put on a super poker face with people and keep shit moving!!!

TweetLove the results of tren and would be great to do a cycle if I compete again. Honestly, for me I dont think it would be worth it if it is going to increase my irritability and increasing blood pressure is a terrible idea even if its for short periods. High blood pressure can destroy your arteries for life and also puts a hell of a strain on your kidneys. The older you get, the more at risk you become of dying of a heart attack and kidney problems.. Young guys dont notice the damage theyre doing until they are older so its much easier for them. If I was young and training to compete on stage, then hell yes I would be taking tren. High blood pressure be damned. Just remember that what you do to your arteries in your 20s and 30s is going to come back to haunt you in your 50s, etc. You gotta weigh the risk/benefit.

Tweetgood info dzone hope the younger guys read this post.

TweetIM 40 years old and have used both TREN A /TREN E through the years. I know It is one of the best for cutting , strength and hardness. I just started another cycle with only using 100mg tren a 3x aweek and within 2 wks my blood pressure went from 130/75 to 195/99 and feeling like shit. I stopped and within 1 1/2 wks my BP was back to normal. I think when I was younger it wouldn't have affected me like that , but now older I know I cant handle it anymore. I wish I could ! haha

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Originally Posted by Gear1

IM 40 years old and have used both TREN A /TREN E through the years. I know It is one of the best for cutting , strength and hardness. I just started another cycle with only using 100mg tren a 3x aweek and within 2 wks my blood pressure went from 130/75 to 195/99 and feeling like shit. I stopped and within 1 1/2 wks my BP was back to normal. I think when I was younger it wouldn't have affected me like that , but now older I know I cant handle it anymore. I wish I could ! haha

Sam with me. I didnt do my research on tren, didnt know it could skyrocket blood pressure. After a HEAVY cycle it did a nasty job on me and now i cant use it ever again. More does NOT mean better. Lesson learned.

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Originally Posted by Gear1

IM 40 years old and have used both TREN A /TREN E through the years. I know It is one of the best for cutting , strength and hardness. I just started another cycle with only using 100mg tren a 3x aweek and within 2 wks my blood pressure went from 130/75 to 195/99 and feeling like shit. I stopped and within 1 1/2 wks my BP was back to normal. I think when I was younger it wouldn't have affected me like that , but now older I know I cant handle it anymore. I wish I could ! haha

pick up a bottle of carditone off of amazon and run it 2x a day. 1am and 1pm and it will bring your bp back into range. if it still isnt where you are comfortable then also add in 10mg cialis with 6-8g of citraline malate. last addition if those arent keeping you where you should be is to add in beet root powder. it any or all of those combos dont work then i would see a doc for meds but i can tell you, i am in my 40s and have super sensitive bp and i keep mine in control even running tren and halo together with no issues at all and it never gets above low 130s over lower 80s. so it does work damn good

TweetHey let me ask you guys a question. At what age would you say Tren is no longer good to take? Would you say theres a cut off age or no? Whos the oldest guy you ever knew to take tren? Did he drop dead or not? lol.... Is it pretty much guaranteed to raise your blood pressure or is that just a few people? Plus, Im not sure I want to feel irritable , I get irritated enough already. Is that a certainty? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by Dzone

Hey let me ask you guys a question. At what age would you say Tren is no longer good to take? Would you say theres a cut off age or no? Whos the oldest guy you ever knew to take tren? Did he drop dead or not? lol.... Is it pretty much guaranteed to raise your blood pressure or is that just a few people? Plus, Im not sure I want to feel irritable , I get irritated enough already. Is that a certainty? Just curious.

doesnt raise everyone's bp, doesnt hammer everyone's liver or lipids either. the one thing that damn near everyone will see is kidney stress from the drying properties and if it does raise your bp. if you keep your health markers in check take your support supps get regular blood work and dont get stupid with it, i say their is no age limit. it can make you a little short on the temper but i think that's over played and an excuse for some to act like ass holes. then again if it keeps you from sleeping which it does for some, that in itself will make you pissed as all hell. the trick is to keep blood levels as possible and take as little test as needed to keep the sides away. like dutch and i were discussing, i think it is best with no test to alleviate some of the issues

Tweeti know a 56 year old guy that does tren and his only complaint was high BP and a little mood swings here and there so i wonder if he is just to old, but again everyone is differant.

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Originally Posted by shooter

i know a 56 year old guy that does tren and his only complaint was high BP and a little mood swings here and there so i wonder if he is just to old, but again everyone is differant.

It is the individual.

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Originally Posted by guns01

doesnt raise everyone's bp, doesnt hammer everyone's liver or lipids either. the one thing that damn near everyone will see is kidney stress from the drying properties and if it does raise your bp. if you keep your health markers in check take your support supps get regular blood work and dont get stupid with it, i say their is no age limit. it can make you a little short on the temper but i think that's over played and an excuse for some to act like ass holes. then again if it keeps you from sleeping which it does for some, that in itself will make you pissed as all hell. the trick is to keep blood levels as possible and take as little test as needed to keep the sides away. like dutch and i were discussing, i think it is best with no test to alleviate some of the issues

Do you not think most of these sides have to do with the amount of tren? I know the particular person also needs to be taken into account but on 50 mgs a day I have never had a single side effect. It works wonders at that dose also.

100 mgs a day is just too much and, aside from very few, I would think it would have to cause unwanted sides.

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Originally Posted by pgc640

Do you not think most of these sides have to do with the amount of tren? I know the particular person also needs to be taken into account but on 50 mgs a day I have never had a single side effect. It works wonders at that dose also.

100 mgs a day is just too much and, aside from very few, I would think it would have to cause unwanted sides.

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hell yeah it is def dose dependent for sure. 50mg a day is excellent and should yield some damn good results. you are also kind of making my point though of stable blood levels dosing it daily. i really think that is key to fighting off tren sweats loss of sleep and irritability. i dont push mine no where near as high as i used to but i can tell and feel if i get out of wack and miss a day. i still stay in the 75-100mg dosing daily when it is in my lineup. i would also rather see someone start out in the low end of 25-50 just to test out the waters because we still have people out there that just dont tolerate it at all.

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Originally Posted by guns01

hell yeah it is def dose dependent for sure. 50mg a day is excellent and should yield some damn good results. you are also kind of making my point though of stable blood levels dosing it daily. i really think that is key to fighting off tren sweats loss of sleep and irritability. i dont push mine no where near as high as i used to but i can tell and feel if i get out of wack and miss a day. i still stay in the 75-100mg dosing daily when it is in my lineup. i would also rather see someone start out in the low end of 25-50 just to test out the waters because we still have people out there that just dont tolerate it at all.

You pretty much agree with me on just about everything from what I've seen. I believe we are around the same age maybe that has something to do with it, experience.

Someone using Tren A for the first time can gain on 25 mgs a day. No doubt about that. It's just never a talked about dose so people automatically think 75, 100, 50 the lowest.

I, usually, if I use tren A(IMO Tren A is the best form of tren out there. The Hex going around I have tried and it is not at all the same thing as the old Negma parabolan. I have a very good friend who runs a fairly large manufacturing operation. He did explain to me the difference, what they have now, according to him is not the same exact drug that Negma sold under the name Parabolon. I'll ask him again and clarify that. The old Negma para is, by far, the best drug, period, I have ever used and all you needed was about 152 mgs a week). 25 mgs a day is 175 mgs of tren ace a week. If you are using it for the first time take that with 500 or so mgs of straight test, not a blend like sust, and maybe add an oral like dbol, anadrol, superdrol and you will grow like a weed. At 25 mgs a day it is very unlikely you get any of those, horrible, always talked about side effects that scare people away from Tren completely. For most, yes some are more sensitive, but for most even at 75 a day you should tolerate it pretty well. Once you get into the 100 mg a day range is when most start getting the sides you hear about but not everyone. It all depends on your body though so Guns is correct. Do a run with just 25 mgs a day, see how you handle it. If you are fine you can try 50 the next time. That may be all you need. Tren is usually taken at too high of a dose so your best bet is to start very low and figure out what dose is optimal for you. The goal should be to find the dose at which you get the best gains without getting side effects that are so bothersome they affect your life.

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