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      Looking for some info guys.. Hoping to start my first cycle within the next month looking at
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      Then lowering the dose down to 125mg test e and HCG 250ui... Just looking to know how long should I be cruising for and then after that should I be adding something like tren into my next blast.
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      Well the 12 week 500mg is great I would also add clomdid to your pct cycle with the Hcg. Its usually time on time off meaning 12 weeks on then your pct then 12 weeks off to recover. Then hit it a little harder not much but vhsnge things up.Qyestion how old are ya will determine to start to cruise or not
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      As a general answer, since you're not actually coming off during a cruise, you could technically stay at that low dosage for as long as you wanted. Keeping the HCG in there will help keep your boys fuller and may aid with fertility if that's something you're concerned about. Lots of guys blast and cruise year round. (Although I'm not saying I recommend that) If it were me, I would treat the cruise time frame similar to coming off and keep my test dosage lower at least as long as I had it ramped up.

      However, a lot of questions are going to come into play here as well. Your age, cycle history, have you had any blood work done to see where all your levels are, etc...
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      I'm 27 i have 2 kids and don't want anymore kids.. I'm looking to enter my first competition when I'm 30 that's kind of why I was leaning towards blast and cruise as opposed to a normal cycle. This will be my first cycle of any kind and as for bloods I will be getting my bloods done before starting my cycle and then during

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      Quote Originally Posted by dokkanmatryx91 View Post
      I'm 27 i have 2 kids and don't want anymore kids.. I'm looking to enter my first competition when I'm 30 that's kind of why I was leaning towards blast and cruise as opposed to a normal cycle. This will be my first cycle of any kind and as for bloods I will be getting my bloods done before starting my cycle and then during

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      ok blast and cruise is an excellent idea. you dont need 3 whole years to get on stage though. dont play the i am not big enough game. you can only gain for so long before you plateau out. so keep that in mind. now for blasting and cruising. dont set a time limit on your blast or your cruise. you go off of your blood work. do bloods every 4 weeks and when you get to a point where your health markers are out of range, shut your blast down and cruise until they come back into range. then the blast kicks off again. that way you can make progress and still stay safe and healthy. you are 27 now so most likely you arent going to bounce back after blasts. not saying it isnt possible but it is unlikely haha. no way to know without bloods. i know that bloods are a pain in the ass but health panels are cheap and the most effective way to fire up and tone it back. rotate compounds during your blasts as long as you can and happy growing. something like this would be a good starter.


      test of choice
      npp or deca rotate at say 6-8weeks to tren until markers get skewed

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      test of choice at 1-150 a week until panel clears

      blast
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      eq or low dose drol i would keep this for the duration

      the possibilities are limitless on these bad boys. you may look into getting a good coach to over see what you are doing. not soliciting you but i do it for a marginal fee in blocks and competitions are my wheel house and i love it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by guns01 View Post
      ok blast and cruise is an excellent idea. you dont need 3 whole years to get on stage though. dont play the i am not big enough game. you can only gain for so long before you plateau out. so keep that in mind. now for blasting and cruising. dont set a time limit on your blast or your cruise. you go off of your blood work. do bloods every 4 weeks and when you get to a point where your health markers are out of range, shut your blast down and cruise until they come back into range. then the blast kicks off again. that way you can make progress and still stay safe and healthy. you are 27 now so most likely you arent going to bounce back after blasts. not saying it isnt possible but it is unlikely haha. no way to know without bloods. i know that bloods are a pain in the ass but health panels are cheap and the most effective way to fire up and tone it back. rotate compounds during your blasts as long as you can and happy growing. something like this would be a good starter.


      test of choice
      npp or deca rotate at say 6-8weeks to tren until markers get skewed

      cruise
      test of choice at 1-150 a week until panel clears

      blast
      test
      eq or low dose drol i would keep this for the duration

      the possibilities are limitless on these bad boys. you may look into getting a good coach to over see what you are doing. not soliciting you but i do it for a marginal fee in blocks and competitions are my wheel house and i love it.
      Thanks dude I appreciate it I'll keep that in mind maybe hit you up next month after blood work is done n all

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      Quote Originally Posted by guns01 View Post
      ok blast and cruise is an excellent idea. you dont need 3 whole years to get on stage though. dont play the i am not big enough game. you can only gain for so long before you plateau out. so keep that in mind. now for blasting and cruising. dont set a time limit on your blast or your cruise. you go off of your blood work. do bloods every 4 weeks and when you get to a point where your health markers are out of range, shut your blast down and cruise until they come back into range. then the blast kicks off again. that way you can make progress and still stay safe and healthy. you are 27 now so most likely you arent going to bounce back after blasts. not saying it isnt possible but it is unlikely haha. no way to know without bloods. i know that bloods are a pain in the ass but health panels are cheap and the most effective way to fire up and tone it back. rotate compounds during your blasts as long as you can and happy growing. something like this would be a good starter.


      test of choice
      npp or deca rotate at say 6-8weeks to tren until markers get skewed

      cruise
      test of choice at 1-150 a week until panel clears

      blast
      test
      eq or low dose drol i would keep this for the duration

      the possibilities are limitless on these bad boys. you may look into getting a good coach to over see what you are doing. not soliciting you but i do it for a marginal fee in blocks and competitions are my wheel house and i love it.
      One more thing this is my first time using gear should I be using test only on my first blast or does it matter if I add say deca or tren?

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      Quote Originally Posted by dokkanmatryx91 View Post
      One more thing this is my first time using gear should I be using test only on my first blast or does it matter if I add say deca or tren?

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      test only and i would drop it to 400 then. we want to make the most out of the least possible. that's the best route to go and then you start adding things in as the progress slows over time. first blast that's all you will need man. trust me. pick up some aromasin also if you can to have on standby since you dont know how your estro will respond. it's a just in caser but most likely you wont need it. better safe than sorry though
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      Quote Originally Posted by guns01 View Post
      test only and i would drop it to 400 then. we want to make the most out of the least possible. that's the best route to go and then you start adding things in as the progress slows over time. first blast that's all you will need man. trust me. pick up some aromasin also if you can to have on standby since you dont know how your estro will respond. it's a just in caser but most likely you wont need it. better safe than sorry though
      This is great advice. Try and get the most out of your fist cycle with as little as possible. 400mg of cyp per week, then add eq...then tren and maybe a-bombs or d-ball for future blasts... that should get you exactly where you need to be... That is about a year or so worth. I would add in the adex to keep water and est down...perhaps HCG if you want to keep the boys at full size/strength as well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jin&Juice View Post
      This is great advice. Try and get the most out of your fist cycle with as little as possible. 400mg of cyp per week, then add eq...then tren and maybe a-bombs or d-ball for future blasts... that should get you exactly where you need to be... That is about a year or so worth. I would add in the adex to keep water and est down...perhaps HCG if you want to keep the boys at full size/strength as well.
      i dont agree with adding in dex without having bloods done to see if you have estro rise to the point that it is needed. for starters it absolutely wrecks havoc on your lipids and 2 it crushes estro and we need estro to grow. so crushing it when not needed is a dbl edge sword in that it slows progress and fucks up lipids. the hcg is a good addition as well though. that is if he wants to have kids in the future
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      Great advice on here as usual. Making notes!

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      Quote Originally Posted by guns01 View Post
      i dont agree with adding in dex without having bloods done to see if you have estro rise to the point that it is needed. for starters it absolutely wrecks havoc on your lipids and 2 it crushes estro and we need estro to grow. so crushing it when not needed is a dbl edge sword in that it slows progress and fucks up lipids. the hcg is a good addition as well though. that is if he wants to have kids in the future
      Fair enough. I was suggesting adex down the road on future blasts with more compounds added in. I do agree that blood results are the determining factor for most things in this game.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dokkanmatryx91 View Post
      I'm 27 i have 2 kids and don't want anymore kids.. I'm looking to enter my first competition when I'm 30 that's kind of why I was leaning towards blast and cruise as opposed to a normal cycle. This will be my first cycle of any kind and as for bloods I will be getting my bloods done before starting my cycle and then during

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      Thanks for all the info guys it's much appreciated.. I'm now 11 days in to my blast. I went with 500mg test e and I'm just going to keep an eye out for gyno symptoms and then add in adex if needed. I'll keep this posted updated in a few weeks after the effects kick in.
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