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Originally Posted by pgcc0313

I've seen much harsher but, man, that is harsh. How did you feel on 1,000 mgs of tren?


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yeah man, i have went higher much higher. here is the funny thing. doing many different approaches and protocols, i have found that i feel great and have zero issues as long as i either go with low or no test at all when the tren gets above 600. another thing i have found with all compounds is they have to be ran in smaller dosing spread out daily instead of eod or e3d. smaller daily injections keep levels much more stable and keep the sides lower or not at all.

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Originally Posted by guns01

yeah man, i have went higher much higher. here is the funny thing. doing many different approaches and protocols, i have found that i feel great and have zero issues as long as i either go with low or no test at all when the tren gets above 600. another thing i have found with all compounds is they have to be ran in smaller dosing spread out daily instead of eod or e3d. smaller daily injections keep levels much more stable and keep the sides lower or not at all.

I always said that and some of these guys on other boards will only believe one thing, that you "NEED TEST AT A CETAIN AMOUNT NO MATTER WHAT ". Just because it is what they have been told by these, I'm sorry, jerk offs with 0 personal experience and who go by, strictly, what they read about.
Ive also used tren without test with no bad effects and great results.

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Originally Posted by pgcc0313

I always said that and some of these guys on other boards will only believe one thing, that you "NEED TEST AT A CETAIN AMOUNT NO MATTER WHAT ". Just because it is what they have been told by these, I'm sorry, jerk offs with 0 personal experience and who go by, strictly, what they read about.
Ive also used tren without test with no bad effects and great results.

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absolutely. my first 3-4 cycles when i was broke AF and could only afford winny tabs to run with homemade tren were amazing and the quality of gains was very nice. more experienced than those first cycles some 19 years ago and i have to say running summer cycles of tren,prop and var or winny i have felt pretty lousy physically day to day unlike the cycles without test. think the cutter this year i will cut out the prop about the time i add in the tren.

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Originally Posted by guns01

yeah man, i have went higher much higher. here is the funny thing. doing many different approaches and protocols, i have found that i feel great and have zero issues as long as i either go with low or no test at all when the tren gets above 600. another thing i have found with all compounds is they have to be ran in smaller dosing spread out daily instead of eod or e3d. smaller daily injections keep levels much more stable and keep the sides lower or not at all.

I know man, I've done the same, tren without any test, with 0 bad sides and great results.

You read some of these other boards and it's scary, the stupidity they spew like it's gospel. None of it from any personal experience, all from what they read about. I stopped even trying to tell them that it is possible to successfully use Tren without test. They don't listen to anything but one opinion based on, really I have no idea what.


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Originally Posted by pgcc0313

I know man, I've done the same, tren without any test, with 0 bad sides and great results.

You read some of these other boards and it's scary, the stupidity they spew like it's gospel. None of it from any personal experience, all from what they read about. I stopped even trying to tell them that it is possible to successfully use Tren without test. They don't listen to anything but one opinion based on, really I have no idea what.


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it's the more is better mindset and more test will make the tren more effective and everyone is scared to death that their dick wont work. they fail to think that if you get something into your mind that it wont work then it wont work and what you are doing has zero to do with it. the mind is a very powerful thing. same goes for gyno, if you say itchy nips people will autmatically feel itchy nips and toss in a bunch of ai with no bloods at all. wasting and stupid across the board