Tweeti agree with MM I pin enough don't need to add to that with oral type gear.. the last time I did a winny inj it was old zambons or knock offs and I took a quad shot and that thing killed me.. the pip was off the charts.. I took every pain killer I had in the house and nothing.. the pain was so bad it woke me up in the middle of the night.. I took oxy etc and they did nothing.. and I am not a pain killer person I don't like the way they make me feel so I rarly use them because of that since then any type oral drug has been taken oral..