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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

I am getting some deca to test, it is deca 500 mg/ml in 10 ml vials. I am wanting to add it to the test I am currently taking at 500 mg per week. This run will look like this 500 mg test and 250 mg deca per week. I have prami if needed and the adex if needed etc.
I am getting 3 10 ml vial enough for 30 weeks. Is this to long? How long should I run it? What results should I expect?

Looks good I have ran deca over a year once u should see nice lean gains and strength

TweetDepends what your using the Deca for. Deca at 250 is a bit low for adding size but ok for joints (in some cases people say it helps with sore joints). Ideally you want a ratio of 2:1 test vs Deca so your good there. The cycle length is over half a year. That's a very long cycle unless you are shooting for a card and are already in great shape.

IMO if the goal is to put on some mass... Change the cycle to 700mg Test, 400mg Deca for 12-14 weeks. That's pretty basic. If you have other ideas for the cycle post me up and I can throw out some other suggestions.

Adex or another AI is always suggested on cycle.

TweetWhat I am looking for is 15# to 20# of lean mass and the strength gain along with it

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

What I am looking for is 15# to 20# of lean mass and the strength gain along with it

If that is the goal, then I would lean more to the way I proposed. I think it makes more effective use of the Deca and you will be more inclined to see the results you are looking for. Also you will not need to run it for 30 weeks which your body will thank you for.

TweetWhen I was in my late 20s I was a beast in the gym and did well in a few BB contest. At 58 the gains are a lot harder and momentum in the training is lacking for me. This is why I picked an goal I can achieve. I got my BF down to a very acceptable level of course lower is better. Training is ok if I can keep my momentum up. My macros could be better but ok.

TweetHave you ever used mast dirtwarrior? If you BF is getting low it may be nice to add in there. (Disclaimer, I use mast in all my cycles and love it) For most it's very mild and really gives the muscles a hard look. Just throwing it out there. Definitely not needed, just a bonus.

Tweetok so we are about the same age, if your blood work is good, i think your cycle is fine, in fact it is a good cycle without being crazy, my cycle is 600 test cyp and 450 deca and i was on almost a year. i am cruising now on 300 test 150 deca. remember deca takes a while to get in your system , i don;t expect anything from it for 6 weeks

TweetI do have some mast here. My hair and prostate doesn't like it much but I did look harder on it.
Deca does take a while to build up in your system but even then I think the gains are slow (I think)

Tweetmast kills my prostate, other than that i love it

TweetAre the gains slow on deca?

TweetBout to blast some test/deca very soon, i cant wait!!

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

Are the gains slow on deca?

it just takes so long to hit, your 6 weeks into your run before it is really rolling, well with me anyway. the other thing (with all the nor-19) is it thickens the blood so you need to be donating blood. i think gains with deca are steady but that is just my thoughts

TweetDeca for joints you can use 50-100mg a week and it will work for your joints just fine at that dose ,yeah 250mg will work for joints but you don't need that much for joint relief, Now if you must use it in a cycle yeah make sure the test is 2-1 mabey even more so you wont get deca dick,lol More isn't always better IMO LT is correct you should try mast prop or mast enth both work very well,ones fast ones slow acting.I know EQ causes the red blood cell count hemocrit hemoglobin to increase if Deca is the same way yes giving blood once or twice a week will help,You will breathe better as well.Your blood turns to oil with EQ .But don't worry about your hair while we are all on we are most likely going to lose it sooner or later its the price we pay to get our results and take what we take.