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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

dose 11 but 2nd dose at 500 mg.
we will see what happens

hoping u do well brother be safe

TweetAt 500 mb is well within the safe limits but thanks bro

TweetI found this and maybe useful to some

DIETARY RECOMMENDATIONS:


1. Carb deplete for 3 days prior to DNP because DNP will take a good 2-3 days to deplete the body's glycogen stores before it can efficiently burn stored fat.


2. Once on DNP eat an isocaloric diet (33% prot, 33% fat, 33% carbs) and keep the calories at around maintenance level. Restricting carbs will put the body in a state of hypoglycemia and can be dangerous to the health and also the mental well being. DNP also mimics insulin in that it shuttles glucose into the cells in the absence of glucose.


This is great for fat burning, but when carb intake is too low the blood glucose can be at dangerously low levels as well. a more experienced user can switch up this ratio a bit. Either way it won't make a huge difference because it's mostly about the total calorie consumption.


This is what Im proposing to be the optimal DNP diet (for a high dose short cycle(s) and the end of a low dose extended cycle only):


50% carbs, 35% protein, 15% fat. Its not a misprint; carbs are essential for DNP to work properly. Keep in mind that its only the percentage that changes and not the total calories.


From this point it will get a bit complicated, but read over it a few times and you will get the gist of it. Ill also try to keep it as simple as possible.


When fatty acids are broken down they need to be fed into an energy cycle for a complete break down so that more can be broken down later. The beginning of this cycle is called the citric acid cycle. Fats enter the citric acid cycle as a 2-carbon molecule called acetate and to start off this cycle it needs to bind to another 2-carbon molecule called oxaloacetate.


Without enough oxaloacetate this cycle cannot proceed. With little oxaloacetate this cycle is slowed down, thus fat burning is slowed down. Where does oxaloacetate come from? Several sources, but the main one is from pyruvate, the end product of the first step of glucose (carbohydrate) metabolism. Without enough glucose in the blood, fat burning becomes very inefficient.

TweetThis is not to say the more carbs we eat the more pyruvate we can generate, therefore the more fat is burned.


We only need adequate levels of pyruvate to supply the citric acid cycle of the necessary starting material for fat to enter, and then it will eventually proceed to be completely oxidized in the electron transport chain.


Dont worry about eating too many carbs while on DNP because these carbs cannot be stored and are immediately used for fuel to try to replenish cellular ATP. While keeping the calorie level at maintenance level, it would be most beneficial to eat about 55% calories from carbs, 35% protein and 10% fat (mostly unsaturated).


It may be optimal for fat burning to raise the carbs a bit more, but the protein should be high enough so that muscle catabolism is kept at a minimum when DNP creates the huge calorie deficit in the body.


The least effective form of dieting while on a DNP cycle is a fat diet, or ketogenic diet, but the high amounts of fat helps to slow gastric emptying, so you feel more satisfied for a longer period of time. This is one reason why I first recommended the isocaloric diet to beginners who may have trouble controlling their appetite while on DNP.


3 Anti-oxidants you want to take while on DNP!
Vitamin E @ 1000 mgs
Vitamin C @ 1.5 to 3 grams
Alpha Lipoic Acid @ 600-800 mgs.


If you feel lethargic on DNP then you aren't eating your fruits.
Eat your fruits while on DNP!

TweetDay 12 still on loading phase

Tweetmost of the suggestions from that article are good. if you run a high dose short cycle you will quit very quickly. also if you eat fruits and or sugar you will most likely stop as well due to the increase of heat. i am still much more of a low and slow patient run with this compound.

TweetI am patient also

TweetThis is a very good journal dw thank u bro

TweetDay 14 I went back to 250 mg per day. I had a thirst that no amount of water would help. I can feel the heat but it is not an intense heat.

So far DNP I can say comes in 3 phases.
Phase 1- introduction phase. It seems well tolerated in most people it is best to start low to see how you react to it. This phase is 3 to 7 days

Phase 2- loading phase. You can bump the dosage slightly to get your body saturated with DNP. The length of time varies. Some keep it a 1 cap a day and that is fine but takes longer

Phase 3- maintenance phase. (I am still in this phase so I do not know how long it will be). Lower the dosage to 1 cap a day. 250 mg The sides are more manageable.

With me since I don't do many simple carbs I do not get a lot of heat but it is still there. You will not get pealed in 1 day but results do come. My abs a showing nicely now but not through with my cycle. Just use common sense with this product and it will work well for you.

TweetI went to the gym to train today. My shirt was soaked with sweat within minutes. It was to hot to train.

TweetDay 15. I measured myself. Lost about 1 1/2 inches off my waist. My diet is usually clean anyway with some cheats during the week. Diet the same and training the same.

TweetDay 18.
Still on 1 cap a day. Sides are easily manageable even with this heat. At 2 caps the heat was to much. Mid section getting tighter and arms are more vascular. Tren didn't do this well and no sleep loss.

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

Day 18.
Still on 1 cap a day. Sides are easily manageable even with this heat. At 2 caps the heat was to much. Mid section getting tighter and arms are more vascular. Tren didn't do this well and no sleep loss.

finally starting to see the results dirt. low and slow is the best way to go haha