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Originally Posted by Torres

Well I'm up and just wanted to post on condition . The new herbs do help knock me out , and I feel as if they give me deep sleep . But I still don't have the continuous sleep that I want .
But starting this week I'm adding another day of pinning to see if that will level out my bloods giving me better sleep .
I will def post up !!!

you are a freak torres haha. slowly keep upping the v root and melatonin. you should top out with the gaba around 750-1g. no naps during the day either

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Originally Posted by guns01

you are a freak torres haha. slowly keep upping the v root and melatonin. you should top out with the gaba around 750-1g. no naps during the day either

Lol hey bro I need u to guide me thru !!!

TweetI haven't gone through this whole thing but if your pinning Tren A it's every day. The later in the day the better. It's rare I even mess with the stuff anymore and after reading this thread maybe I just wont lol. Anyway, a good trusted guy told me right off the bat, everyday in the evening if possible. That's just basic protocol for Tren A. Not saying it will fix your sleep, many experience the fewest sides this way. Me I hate the shit....... wait, I love it..........wait, I hate it.........

Tweetgood ole benedryl wiil knock you out too. It does me anyway, but I cant take it all the time bc i feel hungover in the morning.

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Originally Posted by animal87

good ole benedryl wiil knock you out too. It does me anyway, but I cant take it all the time bc i feel hungover in the morning.

none of the supps that i suggested to torres cause this to happen. even when you combine all 3 you will still wake up refreshed and ready to go.

TweetHey WACK , I have tried the low Test/high Tren deal and it just got me super lethargic . I was tired most times and just didn't like it .
But when I went back to the high Test/low Tren deal snapped me right out of it .
It wasn't this particular cycle, it was a previous one .
But the consensus is to pin more often which I already began to do and we'll see how things pan out .
Def get to sleep using the V Root/Gaba Root/Melatonin , and it gives me deep sleep , just not long enough sleep .
Like right now it's 4 a.m. And I'm up .
But I will keep ya posted on how this more frequent pinning works !
Thank You guys !!!

Tweeti am not a fan of low test high 19nor at all. i am still on the old school mindset of test being the base of everything you do except when you are in the final weeks of contest prep. i also like my junk to work without having to take extra stuff to counter the effects.

torres once your levels balance out you should be better or as close to optimal as you can get and at least you are getting some pretty good sleep now

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Originally Posted by guns01

i am not a fan of low test high 19nor at all. i am still on the old school mindset of test being the base of everything you do except when you are in the final weeks of contest prep. i also like my junk to work without having to take extra stuff to counter the effects.

torres once your levels balance out you should be better or as close to optimal as you can get and at least you are getting some pretty good sleep now

Guns , so last nite was the first nite in 3 weeks I was able to sleep decent and I only got up once .
I believe my levels are finally starting to balance out and u don't know how good it feels, or u probably do .
It's hard to deal w/ the sides if ur not prepared for them but I knew what I was looking forward to when I ran this cycle, still not easy tho .
But the benefits are looking good. My body is harder and everyday I notice little differences. More vascularity, definition is gettin better as well. I was surprised at how cut and defined I'm lookin . Fuckin awesome man !!!
Strength is getting better w/ each day I hit the gym and weight is very slowly goin up .
This thread and this run def isn't over , I'm glad I have u and more of my brothers here for the ride .
Thank you Guns , and all who have given advice.
I'm not new to this but still a lot more I need to know !!!

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Originally Posted by Torres

Guns , so last nite was the first nite in 3 weeks I was able to sleep decent and I only got up once .
I believe my levels are finally starting to balance out and u don't know how good it feels, or u probably do .
It's hard to deal w/ the sides if ur not prepared for them but I knew what I was looking forward to when I ran this cycle, still not easy tho .
But the benefits are looking good. My body is harder and everyday I notice little differences. More vascularity, definition is gettin better as well. I was surprised at how cut and defined I'm lookin . Fuckin awesome man !!!
Strength is getting better w/ each day I hit the gym and weight is very slowly goin up .
This thread and this run def isn't over , I'm glad I have u and more of my brothers here for the ride .
Thank you Guns , and all who have given advice.
I'm not new to this but still a lot more I need to know !!!

keep doing what you are doing and you should come out on top. you should balance out even more the deeper you get into your run and the supps should help even more as well.

TweetI'm actually able to sleep and get good sleep !!! The xtra pinning of the Tren , I believe , is working !!!
Was able to get decent sleep last nite and today I've had 2 real good naps, that I didn't want to get out of bed .
I'm not a new to the game , but there's always something I can learn when dealing w/ gear .
I love this game and glad I have the right advice !!!
I've also gained 3 lbs in the last week , so the cycle is coming along nicely !! Its only week 3 , and I'm goin for a 16-20 week run !!!
It continues , hope to have some pictures up soon !!!

TweetGood stuff Torr. Are you pinning everyday closer to bed?

Tweetthose supps should be helping your body and mind relax much better now. good to hear your finally getting some rest and recovery

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Originally Posted by LittleTom

Good stuff Torr. Are you pinning everyday closer to bed?

Well I do pin at nite, but I like pinning b4 goin to the gym. I'll hit the gym around 9 PM and hit the bed around 11 PM .
But it is getting better !!!
The Tri Tren & Deca is almost done and I've had a great run w/ it , will be running Tren E and NPP to see how I adjust and benefit off those compounds . This run is goin great and I'm also goin to change frm Mast P to Mast E very soon as well !!!