TweetI remember Rake saying that nolva is useless at fighting Tren sides, is that right?

TweetNolva will not do any good aginst tren it's a progestrogen bump for parmi dose

TweetI did the Prami thing too and what I did was just take it at night since It knocked me out....Now nolva won't do much against 19-nors I have been told (tren/deca)...

I read letro, maybe .5mg every3day or something...maybe you guys with more experience in AI's can weigh in though lol...I am just quoting what I read before somewhere

TweetSo ive had some time to google it. .5mg should be enough per day even when fighting sides not just maintaining, so ill try that ive been doing 1mg per day which is said to be a high dose just starting out. I just hate the sides of it.

Last time i ran tren i never used prami once, kinda weird.

TweetYes sir.... .5mg should do the trick! Again, if sleepiness ensues try it at nightime

TweetYou should have took adex or aromisn with it from the start. Caber or prami for progeterone sides. Letro will kill all the estrogen in your body and your joints will dry out, just us e it until its not needed anymore.

Tweeti dont see how you guys can just jump on this anti e or that anti e with nothing to back it off of. could it be excess estro? could it be prog related? or could it even be in your head? these are all 3 questions that should be answered before delving down the road on an anti e. why do i say this? well first and foremost you need estrogen for many functions including building actual muscle. every wonder why so many people's cycles suck ass (other than their diet sucks balls)? it is because they are hammering anti e when it is absolutely not needed which in turn hampers their gains. also other than slowing down your gains it will also cause unwanted sexual side effects, mess with your joints and screw up your lipids like no one's business. i would be willing to bet a pay check that 5-10 times itchy nips is from people having it in their heads and then they fuck around with them so much that it is what is actually causing the problem. dont want to skimp on blood work? then if you start lactating or have fluid coming from your nipples then your tit issues is from pro and not estro. i have known far to many momos that screw with their nipples and swear up and down that they are getting gyno when it is actually from them squeezing and messing with them on their own. the take home message to my rant here: go get bloods done and if your estro is out of range then combat it into range dont just guess. oh and stop thinking about it and squeezing on yourself. that will also help out

TweetNice read there guns, so they are a little sore, no itching at all. Ill be honest my GF was messing with them the three days we were staying at the beach so that may have started the whole thing. its not just in my head. when i press on them theres a soreness and its a little uncomfortable. im freakin cuz i dont want gyno to start so i was acting a little irresponsible and loading up on these ancillaries. I know it was a bad move i didnt know that i would need adex or aromasin from the start that i totally overlooked.

I normally research alot before i start taking something just in this case i was scared.

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Originally Posted by guns01

i dont see how you guys can just jump on this anti e or that anti e with nothing to back it off of. could it be excess estro? could it be prog related? or could it even be in your head? these are all 3 questions that should be answered before delving down the road on an anti e. why do i say this? well first and foremost you need estrogen for many functions including building actual muscle. every wonder why so many people's cycles suck ass (other than their diet sucks balls)? it is because they are hammering anti e when it is absolutely not needed which in turn hampers their gains. also other than slowing down your gains it will also cause unwanted sexual side effects, mess with your joints and screw up your lipids like no one's business. i would be willing to bet a pay check that 5-10 times itchy nips is from people having it in their heads and then they fuck around with them so much that it is what is actually causing the problem. dont want to skimp on blood work? then if you start lactating or have fluid coming from your nipples then your tit issues is from pro and not estro. i have known far to many momos that screw with their nipples and swear up and down that they are getting gyno when it is actually from them squeezing and messing with them on their own. the take home message to my rant here: go get bloods done and if your estro is out of range then combat it into range dont just guess. oh and stop thinking about it and squeezing on yourself. that will also help out

Thank u for saying that bro I stopped using anti e about 9 years ago and my gains were better also never got gyno symptoms but they did ruin my cholesterol I have zero and every doc I have been to blamed the estame for it That is one of it's side effects.

TweetGet bloods...it could be the TNE rollercoaster that is the culprit. You say you pin it EOD with your Tren A? Is it for PWO reasons? You have a long ester test and adding no ester test to it, if I am not mistaken it can cause estro issues...but yes get some blood work done and see where E2 levels are at...and tell your girlfriend to stop with the tittie twisters.

Tweetgreat post guns

when I take test or tren/deca I make sure I have everything I need for both problems.. I have a-dex on hand I have nolv on hand and caber on hand..

just incase I have a problem.. I've never had any problems with deca/tren sides but still have it on hand just in case...

TweetGood stuff guys thanks for the responses. I did tren a before at EOD, is that too in frequent?

TweetNo
Not to frequent ed would keep ur levels better