TweetIt will kill your drive just the same, after about 3 weeks your drive usually is toast without adding test. You need test.


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Tweeti would personally add that it would be a waste and you would see minimal gains at best. that is of course just my opinion

TweetI dont think I could even tell I was takeing something if I just took tbol. Not one of my favorites.

TweetYou need a test base for it or like everyone said waste of time and money.

TweetThere's nothing wrong with low doses easy cycles boss, seeing this more and more with athletes who use Mostly for recovery (ie mma and crossfitters)...just take a cc of test each week with your oral cycle.



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Originally Posted by guns01

i would personally add that it would be a waste and you would see minimal gains at best. that is of course just my opinion

Yep a waste of money add the test

Tweeti dont lift and only do MMA but i have had great success with 30 mg morning and 30 after training(pumps hurt if before)

gains were minimal but strength was up and I was dieting so while my weight did not change my BF did drop and not by a negligible amount. i am not competative other than smokers now but it does help my old ass compete with the kids who whoop my ass with speed and cardio. the strength is good. not like drol but still noticeable. never had sex sides with it.

Tweetthanks for the input guys. The only reason I havent discussed adding test is because I dont want to risk losing hair. I take finasteride and have been tempted to see what test will do to hair, but not sure I want to gamble it as I don't compete

TweetLove TBOL, but I agree you need a little test. I thought nanrdolones, not testoterone were the one that exacerbated hair issues.

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thanks for the input guys. The only reason I havent discussed adding test is because I dont want to risk losing hair. I take finasteride and have been tempted to see what test will do to hair, but not sure I want to gamble it as I don't compete

You already take finadesteride?


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Originally Posted by 6p6

There's nothing wrong with low doses easy cycles boss, seeing this more and more with athletes who use Mostly for recovery (ie mma and crossfitters)...just take a cc of test each week with your oral cycle.



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I like this idea, and I have friends who have done what you are asking with tbol and made some gains...however, they soon realized that without the test they were failing as a man and then soon lost the 8lbs or so initially put on...

throwing a cc or so of test a week would be fairly easy, just a suggestion though

TweetYeaa I am 27 and did a lot of research about taking it before you need it. I am in pharmaceutical sales and really dont want to lose it or feel like I made myself lose it w gear. I do var only in summer, igf lr3 a couple times a year and was contemplating t bol this winter b/c it doesnt affect hair. I am 6 foot tall, 210 lbs and around 7 percent bf. I hurt got so lean this summer i lost some strength and havent bulked in a years so I need some bulk, just dont wanna go wild w it. current bench is 375, squat in the 500s, deadlift close to 600.

TweetI am not a fan of oral only cycles but it seems your not into lifting and cycling. but I don't see how 1cc a week of test enth or cyp would hurt your hairline..

but he try the tbol only cycle and see how you re-act if you like it use it again..

I myself didn't know var or tbol hurt your sex drive..