TweetHey tazzy i thought id chime in here. Im on 500mg a week test E & 100mg tren ace every other day and im freakin loving it. Now i dont have any of the back issues you speak of but i can tell you that ive dropped BF and gained currently 19lbs.

My back has freakin exploded and as far as tren sides im experiencing nothing but mild sweating. Its my first go with tren, this is my 3rd week on it. Ive been on test for 8 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Mountain Monster

I'm in the same boat with winni and back issues bro, for me a moderately low dose if deca or npp will off set winnis joint pain perfectly and get you going the way you want as far as the aas go. Of course diet and the right training is 80%+ of what your gonna get out of any cycle. You stating you want to keep injectables down though, I would say t-Bol or M1T are some great options. Both are a nice alternative to a winni vs dbol combo imo. Are you planning on numbing the test up when you start the next compound? Is the 250 a week a self prescribed trt and cycle the dose up and down from that point or do you plan to cycle off eventually? Basically I'm trying to get a better idea of your goal and plans. Are you on trt or cruising at 250 while deciding what to add? I would like to note t-Bol is great for lean mass but I do get back cramps pretty often running it and that is sometimes an issue for me as well having prior back injuries. Hit me back with a little more info and I bet we can all come up with some good suggestions to get you headed where you want to go.

Thks guys!! It's a self prescribed test cycle cruising. I get a sore lump, mild gyno in my left nip when I increase the test too much. I hear you on the m1t. I have some trenavar and Mentabolon that I will take, finish before I get more support. And for those that are repping tgb.... I have ordered from there a few times and yes they are good. Thanks guys.