TweetGusto can tell you on my blasts I run 350 Tren acetate along with 300 NPP and 450 test. I am older then you and do run them together because of my joints. No expert just works for me over the last two years. No negative sides that I am aware except a little emotional between weeks 5 and 8. Then I go back to cruise on 50 prop a day. I have done this 4 times now.

Tweetwould recommend dostinex .5mg 2 or 3 times a week with this

TweetI tried this recently and it just didn't work for me (deca/tren)...but that's me. Seemed to amplify my tren side bad!

TweetSomething else Gusto I was thinking in shower. You chose short esters on everything just like I did. If you notice something is right you can back off right away. I believe that is wise. Next year I am going to try the longer esters and see how that works. Less shots you know.

Tweetrun it man. if you are worried about one or the other messing you up then start one low and ramp it up slowly every week until you hit where you want to be sitting. if you are prone to prog sides then have some caber on hand to offset. .5mg mon and thurs if needed and you shouldnt need more than that. i run them both together and have no issues at all and i have ran them quite high. i say pour it on man

TweetIf you keep your e2 in check you won't have any problems with progesterone......but it's always safe to have some caber on hand just in case.

Run it and enjoy it brother, there's nothing wrong with hitting em both up together, especially with how moderate your doses are. I'm sure Christsean will comment on this thread as he absolutely loves stacking em both.


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TweetI think my joints are gonna force me to start running low dose deca every cycle.

Whats the min. dose to see relief?

TweetI ran 100 mgs Deca with my third cycle and I swear I had excellent joint relief off that little amount

Tweeti think the cautioning behind those 2 together is meant more for the inexperienced, as long as you know where your estro is i cant see it being an issue, but low dosing it at first is always a good gauge on how you respond. i havent tried it, and am not interested in doing so, but the joint relief aspect of it i can understand. i use to be an advocate of "oh no dont mix those two together" as i was also one to argue "nandrolone to test ratio should be 1:2," but am finding and learning that those golden rules can be broken as long as your in tune with your body and know what your doing.

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Originally Posted by Rake

Gusto can tell you on my blasts I run 350 Tren acetate along with 300 NPP and 450 test. I am older then you and do run them together because of my joints. No expert just works for me over the last two years. No negative sides that I am aware except a little emotional between weeks 5 and 8. Then I go back to cruise on 50 prop a day. I have done this 4 times now.

how long do you stay at your cruise and balse with tren and npp for?
and caber could help with the emotional feelings..

TweetI ran tren and deca toghether before at a highr dose tren 100 mg ed deca 600 mg a week and test 1000 mg week got deca -tren dick for 2 mths was not fun

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Originally Posted by animal87

I think my joints are gonna force me to start running low dose deca every cycle.

Whats the min. dose to see relief?

you can go as low as 25-50 with deca for joint help.

Tweetthats the protocol i use in my pct with torem, like much better than nolva.