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Originally posted by Johnson7
Drenten,
You were shooting that much prop just 2x a week?

Actually, it wasn’t twice a week; it was every other day, which works out to 3.5 times a week (3.5 x 300mg = 1050mg).

How were your test levels, did you feel them fluctuate?

The only time I ever really get any acne is when my test levels fluctuate. I could use an absolutely astronomical amount of test and I won’t break out unless the levels don’t stay steady. At 300mg of prop every other day, I don’t break out at all and I definitely feel like I am on an even keel.

Tweetwow, that is what I want to do, I love prop!

TweetI usually go with 750 mgs to 1gram of short esters. a little more for cyp and enan. I just started back on test in june after 8 years off. about 5 years ago I had a cbc done and my doc said my test levels were very high (4-5 times what they should have been in his opinion). the reason for the test was my uncontrolable bp. The only thing I can think of is my test usage in my teens and early 20's made my body less sensitive to test and I had to produce more. I don't know. I would think that early steroid use would shut down your natural test levels

Tweetlast cycle i was at 550mg/wk. in the fall i will do 600-750mg/wk depending what else i use

TweetI have ran as much as 1200mg/wk, but I like to keep the dosage under or up to 1gram/wk.

Tweetthe most I've ever did is 500mg a week , and things went well . I'm looking to try 750mg next . 30yr. 12% bf 5'11" 185lbs.

Tweet700mg of suspension is working good, ill keep it at that,

5'11 230-240 vary between 11-13% bf, hopefully lower soon

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Originally posted by Drenten
For me the gains and the strength are a good bit better at 1 gram as opposed to 500mg. Also, I really don’t see much of a difference in the side effects. At 1050mg a week of Propionate (300mg EOD) the only sides I get are pretty much the same as they are at 500mg a week of Enanthate.

Those sides are:

1. Really oily skin – I mean really oily. It looks like I’m always sweating. I have to constantly go to the bathroom to wash or at least blot the oil off my face. I keep clean undershirts in my desk at work because halfway through the day the upper back area of my undershirt gets soaked with oil. I don’t really get any acne though.
2. I am gyno prone so I use Nolvadex at 30mg a day throughout the cycle and for several weeks after. In fact, I use Nolvadex pretty much all year, usually at 10mg a day when I’m off cycle.
3. My level of assholeishness gets heightened. I have to be really careful not to go off on people.
4. My blood pressure goes up, but a little Dyazide brings that right back down to normal.
5. Headaches. Again, and I’m not really sure why, but using Dyazide pretty much keeps them away.
6. Sleeplessness. I have always had problems sleeping, but on cycle it gets ridiculous. As much as I hate to do it, Valium, which I have a legitimate prescription for, is the only thing that will help.

why do you take nolva at 10 even when your off and not inrecovery?

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Originally posted by Governor
why do you take nolva at 10 even when your off and not inrecovery?

I run long cycles with a lot of test, and estrogen related problems could hit you long after a cycle is over. I find that a low maintenance dose of 10mg a day when off cycle keeps the estrogen problems at bay. Also, when I’m not bulking, I’m usually leaning out; Nolvadex is helpful with fat loss.

TweetI use 750-1000 mg of sust or cyp a week. Tried 500 mg of sust my first time juicing and saw good results but find 1000mg is the best. Im 26, 275lbs 6'3". Need the dbol in there though.

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Originally posted by Warrior
Use what works for you. If you do fine at 500mgs - use 500mgs. If you up it to 700mgs with no problems and better results... use 700. But you do need some estrogen conversion, at 500mg of testosterone the only anti-e you really need is 50mg Proviron ED - IMO. 1mg of Proviron per 10mg of Test.

proviron is better than nolvadex for a test only cycle (as far as water retention?)

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Originally posted by Drenten
I run long cycles with a lot of test, and estrogen related problems could hit you long after a cycle is over. I find that a low maintenance dose of 10mg a day when off cycle keeps the estrogen problems at bay. Also, when I’m not bulking, I’m usually leaning out; Nolvadex is helpful with fat loss.

oh alright, cool.

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Originally posted by Damonic

Im 26, 275lbs 6'3".

Holy shit