TweetIt could be the way it was prepared, could have hit a bad spot, warming your oil helps keep your actives it in solution

Tweetwhat slin said and not everyone is sensitive to pip. you can cause it yourself, it could be due to you being sensitive to compounds carriers or specific oils. their are tons of variables when it comes to pip. you will have one person that gets crippled with pip with one thing and another that can pound the exact same product all day long everyday.

TweetCould be the way it is prepared like said. Could be the length and size of needle. Needle movement. Oil used

TweetIt also can be an overdosed product in which the oil is absorbed faster than the hormone causing it to crash and crystallize in the muscle tissue.

TweetPIP can happen for anything. PIP could be because you pinned to fast or because you pinned to much oil in one spot, irritation or just from the pin moving and ripping the muscle up. Everyone is different as well. I get pip from almost everything i pin. I can pin tren a, eq deca, test e and TNE with limited to no pip but i cannot pin test p it lumps and i get pip for 2-4 days everytime. There are so many variables for pip brother you cant really put your finger on just one thing. I also noticed pinning before bed and letting the oil just sit gives me more pip. I pin in the AM and by moving around all day i get much less pip.

TweetFor me PIP depends on a bunch of things
1. Length of the ester...shorter is worse...for example prop is worse than enan
2. Dosage of the oil. Higher mg/ml means more pip
3. Overall amount of oil-more injected means more pip
4. Amount of BA in the oil....some labs use too much BA and that gives me pip
5. Site-I get lots of pip in the quads, very little in the glutes, and a moderate amount in the delts
6. How "virgin" the muscle is. As the cycle goes on, pip gets less...
7. Hitting a vein...if the injection bleeds, pip is sure to follow

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Originally Posted by mfdvr

For me PIP depends on a bunch of things
1. Length of the ester...shorter is worse...for example prop is worse than enan
2. Dosage of the oil. Higher mg/ml means more pip
3. Overall amount of oil-more injected means more pip
4. Amount of BA in the oil....some labs use too much BA and that gives me pip
5. Site-I get lots of pip in the quads, very little in the glutes, and a moderate amount in the delts
6. How "virgin" the muscle is. As the cycle goes on, pip gets less...
7. Hitting a vein...if the injection bleeds, pip is sure to follow

all of these are possibly legit to say but they come be the exact opposite from one person to the next. so pip is a very very hard thing to iron out from person to person. i may not react to prop or suspensions but they may cripple you beyond belief. i may be crippled by hg test enth 250 or cyp at 200 and you may enjoy it like water. their are far to many factors at play when it comes down to pip from an individual standpoint

TweetCould be because the lab used the wrong filters in preparing the gear.

Tweetor the oil was to hot and it didnt filter properly
or they didnt compelty let the powder mix into the oil

i mean there a literally a million ways pip can happen and everyone is different i dont think its possible to pin point pip. I can pin the same exact gear from the same vial and get no pip one pin and get bad pip the next.

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TweetWhat if you can mix 1 cc of 500ml per cc and 1/4 ml of 200ml per cc and get no PIP what does that mean

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

What if you can mix 1 cc of 500ml per cc and 1/4 ml of 200ml per cc and get no PIP what does that mean

the extra amount of oil is offsetting and allowing it to absorb with minimal irritation. some people who are sensitive to prop or say tren a can do the same thing with a long ester compound. some people will do say a test enth with npp or say sust with some tren a and it offsets the pip that comes from tren a. personal experience for me is primo has to be cut with something else that isnt irritating and it doesnt matter if it is hg or ugl, primo freaking hurts solo. that is good indication that it isnt fake for me and no one will sneak eq or winny in on me with primo cause eq doesnt give me any pip but winny cripples me at any amount. primo doesnt lump on me at all but it has some brutal pip solo. basically cutting a pip product with another compound or oil will offset it most of the time

Tweeteveryone is different s far as discomfort goes I have had prop hurt for a week and test 500 e never hurt its just different for everyone I don't think you can put a time table on it

TweetGeez this is making my head spin. LOL Guess best thing to do is start doing a check list on yourself, use different methods and try different oils, carriers ect...