Tweetjuiceman something else you may want to take into account about tren is that most people see sides due to fluctiating levels. so if you want to go that route then maybe consider a more frequent dosing sched as an option with ace. something else to think about is start low dose tren and creep the dose up to tolerable levels. just throwing those ideas out to you. if drol kills your appetite then take it later in the day and before bed to combat that. their are tons of different ways to make different compounds work man. dont just hang up on something with one or two bad experiences