Are There Less Issues with Prop. vs Ent/Cyp?

[tony_canuck]

TweetHey guys, quick question.

I was lucky enough to try some real, pharm-grade test enth (my buddy is on legit TRT). I was using a low dose and did it sub-Q. I had absolutely no issues with it, it was great.

Then I tried sub-Q shot with some UG enth. Looked like a friggin golf ball was stuffed in my belly, big round swelling and pain.

I've used this UG gear before (IM), so there is test in it (it works) but something else in the compound caused swelling and a little pain when shooting sub-Q.

My question, I'm assuming there needs to be some way to make the ester long-lasting, would that mean a short acting ester like prop is 'safer' in the sense that there would be less 'other' compounds in there?

Or is it just the BA that's causing the vast difference between UG and HG enth?

Thanks!

[Juice_Lee]

TweetReally high ba most likely.

[Jbranken]

TweetI don't think it has anything to do with the ester weight. It's the suspension. If you get another abscess from the UG gear, I'd stop using it subq and go the IM route.

[tony_canuck]

TweetThanks for the replies.

Yea, there's no way I'm doing subQ with this UG gear. Too bad too, since I'm just using low dose right now and it would be really easy to pin that way.

It is weird, since I don't have issues IM. Maybe the blood flow in the muscle can help absorb the BA/ester/suspension?

Since I used HG enth. subQ and had no issues, it must be how the UG lab made the enth, since the HG had no issues. hmm...

Are there any posted results of lab work done on UG gear? I'm curious to see what else is inside gear that makes it different than HG. I wonder how much it costs to get a lab to analyze a sample?

[mikeyg51]

TweetUG gear is exactly that: underground...there is no standard and every batch from the same supplier may even vary as supplies change...So, if you are gonna do sub-q, just stick with the human grade since you already know it won't cause discomfort...I find less issues with test prop than the longer esters too but that is just my opinion....I love the shorter esters...

[Maintenance Man]

TweetMy guess is because of the BA content as well. UGL products need FAR more BA content than a HG because of the sterility factor. HG is under such higher standards for sterility, not as much BA is needed. Imo, I want that BA in my UGL as long as its not more than the usual 2-3%. Who knows how sterile they're really being?? Even in your own homebrew, how careful can you really be?

[Heavy Hitter]

TweetJust go im. At least 1.5 you will be much happier. I love prop. But if you inject prop subq your going to hurt like hell. I use 1.5 in my shoulders, glutes, lats. I use 1" in my traps. But I could probably do 1.5 in my traps my shoulders Are decent size. The deeper the better my man just like sex and squats. Oh and the issue you would have with prop is injecting ed or EOD. Lots of oil build up. So I
Short esters are actually less safe only because more pokes more chance for infection human error. So to sum it up why put your dick just into the ***** when its so much better to shove it all the way in?