TweetWhats your stats??? lifting, diet, age, how many cycles under your belt.. all the good stuff..

TweetI have been lifting for 9 years, While i run this cycle i will be lifting with our football program which is heavy Olympic lifts 4 days a week and also ill be lifting my own program 5-6days a week, so of the 4 days with the team i will be lifting twice on those days. my diet is good, pretty much a ridiculous amount of chicken and rice for three meals, then three meals of the best carbs and protein campus is serving for that day. Age: 20, I have ran three cycles previously. My reasoning behind cycling is for football, i play college ball, but really i just love striving for that status of superhuman. lol

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Originally Posted by Fullback40

I just posted this in one my other threads but it was pretty irrelevant to the subject so i just made a new one. im just flirting with idea of running this, going for strength and a lean bulk, what do you guys think?
Weight:205
Height: 5`9
Iv run three cycles before this.

Sust 250: 187.5mg EOD: Week 1-12---656.25mg a week
Tren A 100: 100mg EOD: Week 1-12---350mg a week (Im also probably gonna have some NPP on hand in case the Tren gets too rough i can switch in NPP instead)
T-Bol: 40mg ED: Week 1-6

Aromasin on hand
Caber on hand

HCG I would start it 2 weeks before my PCT. 1500IU`s 3x a week, Then First week of PCT 1500IU`s 2x a week

PCT will have
Clomid 100mg ED week1-2, then 50mg ED week3-5
Aromasin 25mg ED week 1-5

Why not just run the Sust @ 750mg EW instead of 656.25mg? That making sure I am measuring to the exact line would get old real quick!!! Have you ran Tren Ace before? Start low 50mg EOD and increase as you feel it kick in, take is slow and steady...you know the saying. Also up your Tbol to at least 60-80mg ED, taking 1/2 of daily dose PWO. If Caber is needed make sure you run that into PCT too.

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Originally Posted by MuscleAddiction

Why not just run the Sust @ 750mg EW instead of 656.25mg? That making sure I am measuring to the exact line would get old real quick!!! Have you ran Tren Ace before? Start low 50mg EOD and increase as you feel it kick in, take is slow and steady...you know the saying. Also up your Tbol to at least 60-80mg ED, taking 1/2 of daily dose PWO. If Caber is needed make sure you run that into PCT too.

Well the Sust would be 3/4 of a ml everytime, and i guess i could go to 750 but i was just being conservative, and i will start the tren at 50 like you said, that is smarter then jumping into it, and i will also up the Tbol to 60 like you were saying. Thanks for your input

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Originally Posted by Fullback40

Well the Sust would be 3/4 of a ml everytime, and i guess i could go to 750 but i was just being conservative, and i will start the tren at 50 like you said, that is smarter then jumping into it, and i will also up the Tbol to 60 like you were saying. Thanks for your input

All good bro!!! Keep that Caber handy, Tren makes me a sexual predator...combined with Caber & Proviron, wife has no chance!!! The night sweats will hit first, then possible trensomnia, so just kick it in slow and sides can be managed.

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Originally Posted by MuscleAddiction

All good bro!!! Keep that Caber handy, Tren makes me a sexual predator...combined with Caber & Proviron, wife has no chance!!! The night sweats will hit first, then possible trensomnia, so just kick it in slow and sides can be managed.

Haha hell yeah, sounds like im g2g with it, im so pumped to get started. Thanks dude for advice i appreciate it!

Tweeti always use hcg through i do not wait that long to start

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Originally Posted by wutlisstrice

i always use hcg through i do not wait that long to start

I would but i have heard that will make the suppression in the long run worse. have you ever encountered this?

TweetI really do like the cycle....I have run tren at 100mg EOD many times and I always run HCG from like week 2 or so until the end...but that is just my opinion, either way you its up to you! The Caber is extremely important as I am one that is susceptible to prolactin sides....And it is better to use Clomid PCT as Nolvadex isn't as great with Tren/Deca-inclusive cycles....

Let us know brother how it goes!

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Originally Posted by Fullback40

I would but i have heard that will make the suppression in the long run worse. have you ever encountered this?

I always forget this as I cruise...no PCT for me, but blast HCG just to wake boys up from time to time. You should run HCG @ 500iu EW through entire cycle and can still blast them a bit prior to starting if feel the need, but probably will not need to. Sorry for missing that.

TweetI would run caber the whole time and through pct if it was me. It has alot of benefits, one being it helps with muscle memory, you being a football player that would be beneficial to you.

Like they said above try the tren low at first.

Tweeti have but i use a low dose

TweetWhat MA said was spot on. If yoh use the whole cycle keeps your boys from shutting down. Which means way easier recovery. Tren supresses completely and sometimes the boys dont wake back up even if blasting 5k iu a week.

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