Tell me what you guys think for a bulker

[juiceman]

TweetGoing different route this time would like advice. I want to do a quick bulker before i do my pharma grade cycle so i can really tell the difference.

Anyhow Juicemans Sexy Cycle? Does it look juicy or not so juicy? :
1200mg of some sort of test Thinking of test e c Or sustanon 250 or test p with test pp or Test E or C with Test decanoate blend Either or test is test dunno which one
600mgs of nan deca
EQ at 1000mgs a week either boldenon undecylenate or boldenon cypionate or combo of the two.
Then not sure which ai to take provirion or aromasin ?
Then cabaser at .5mgs a week


Should i do tren E instead for bulking would i yield better results? Thing with tren is i dont want to get aggressive on it as ive takin ace on my first cycle. I know it was dumb i was getting shit off a huge BB and he told me to take it so i did, If i did it at a lower dose of say 300mgs a week would that be better then deca at 600mgs a week? Results wise.

Would i get the night sweats and aggression at 300mgs?

[6p6]

TweetTren is tricky to predict, everyone seems to handle it different. If you have that many questions go with ace so you can adjust the dose better, tren e will be hard to alter quickly if sides hit you bad.

[juiceman]

TweetHmm so 50mgs of tren ace 3 times a week should yield me better results ten deca at 600mgs a week ? I don't want to become an asshole or lose sleep at night haha I'm already a big enough ass.

[rmewrench]

TweetProviron is NOT an ai. Its a DHT steroid. It has no ai properties at all.

[smalls1]

Tweet^^^ correct. Id do test, deca, dbol basic yet very effective bulker that yields great results with lower sides compared to tren... Save tren for next summer! That's my plan anyway... Good luck on your cycles bro

[smalls1]

Tweeteq would be great as well but will keep you more vascular than deca will (diet dependent) due to water retention from deca.

[juiceman]

TweetYah true kk ill do deca test eq this time around. I dunno if i wanna pop dbol always flares my tits up so does deca but hopefully this cabar will stop it. I got some pharmagrade cabar ill use. Instead of Mps shit that shit was bunk man.

[Pittsburgh63]

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Proviron is NOT an ai. Its a DHT steroid. It has no ai properties at all.

This is true...but proviron does help reduce sides of other aas similiar to that of masteron and primo...both of which are also dht derivatives. They are certainly no replacement for an AI or progesterone inhibitor...but it does help.

[rmewrench]

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This is true...but proviron does help reduce sides of other aas similiar to that of masteron and primo...both of which are also dht derivatives. They are certainly no replacement for an AI or progesterone inhibitor...but it does help.

I'm what way, shape, or form?

[Pittsburgh63]

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I'm what way, shape, or form?

DHT compunds have been shown to reduce not only estro related side effects, but also progesterone/prolactin sides. Lost all my case studies when my old laptop fried...but they backed up all of my personal experiences also.

A specific example from my personal use is that proviron reduces the "trensomnia" effect as well as a solid reduction in night sweats. Certainly keeps my libido up...which, for me, is tough when 19nors are involved. Provi on my bulks is a staple that fights bloat from running high mg deca. Other than the toll on your hair line...dht compounds are almost a must for my cycles.

[rmewrench]

TweetI have labs that prove other wise. Not only in myself but other people I know as well. I read some bro science before that mast had anti estrogen properties. Well I was in the middle of 700 mg wk of tren a 300mg wk of test e and 600 mg wk of mast and had labs pulled. Estrogen was double normal in the high end of the scale. I have a close friend who experienced the same. I can pm the link to his thread on another forum. I'm currently on 500mg of test e, 100mg of tren a eod with 100mg of proviron and the proviron hasn't curbed any of the tren sides. I'm all for some scientific research that dht compounds lower estrogen/psa levels. Please show me.

[Pittsburgh63]

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I have labs that prove other wise. Not only in myself but other people I know as well. I read some bro science before that mast had anti estrogen properties. Well I was in the middle of 700 mg wk of tren a 300mg wk of test e and 600 mg wk of mast and had labs pulled. Estrogen was double normal in the high end of the scale. I have a close friend who experienced the same. I can pm the link to his thread on another forum. I'm currently on 500mg of test e, 100mg of tren a eod with 100mg of proviron and the proviron hasn't curbed any of the tren sides. I'm all for some scientific research that dht compounds lower estrogen/psa levels. Please show me.

I hear you...and as I stated earlier, proviron is certainly not an AI or a replacement for it...same with progesterone... and everyone's reactions to such compounds differ greatly. since I lost most of my content when my laptop fried..the most I could dig up right now would be personal labs..but those are hardly controlled studies. I can tell you that my estro while running test at 500mg per week, no AI falls right around the mid 80's (based on a few different tests). Test at 500mg per week with 100mg everyday of provi and I generally fall in the upper 30's/lower 40's. In regards to decreased sides with 19 nors, I speak exclusively from personal experience...and can be chalked up completely to "broscience"... but the effects are noticable in my particular experiences.

[rmewrench]

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I hear you...and as I stated earlier, proviron is certainly not an AI or a replacement for it...same with progesterone... and everyone's reactions to such compounds differ greatly. since I lost most of my content when my laptop fried..the most I could dig up right now would be personal labs..but those are hardly controlled studies. I can tell you that my estro while running test at 500mg per week, no AI falls right around the mid 80's (based on a few different tests). Test at 500mg per week with 100mg everyday of provi and I generally fall in the upper 30's/lower 40's. In regards to decreased sides with 19 nors, I speak exclusively from personal experience...and can be chalked up completely to "broscience"... but the effects are noticable in my particular experiences.

I once believed everything I read and was relying on mast to keep estro in check and it almost bit me. Nothing like going to a breast cancer clinic to get checked for gyno...lol ...I just hate to see the op rely on something that may not work the way they think our have come to believe. Threads like this is how we all learn.

[Pittsburgh63]

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I once believed everything I read and was relying on mast to keep estro in check and it almost bit me. Nothing like going to a breast cancer clinic to get checked for gyno...lol ...I just hate to see the op rely on something that may not work the way they think our have come to believe. Threads like this is how we all learn.

Absolutely...hence the reason I stress continually that these compounds are not by any means a replacement for anciliaries such as adex or caber. Best advice anyone can give in regards to this topic is get bloodwork done regularly. Know how you personally respond to these compounds. It's the only way to know what's really happening behind the scenes. I've been doing bloodwork for the better part of 8-9 years now on a monthly basis. Order labs...no if, ands or buts about it.

[ZOOT]

TweetLovin the back and forth experiences here fellas..nice work. Juiceman, how many cycles do you have under your belt bro? That's a lot of compounds if you are relatively new to the game. I only ask because if some big dude says take something it doesn't mean you will get the same results just because he says so. I mean no disrepsect, just looking out for your safety.