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Originally posted by Blackfoot
Warbird, I actually plan on running winny after the d-bol. But, I will not be at as high of a dose as you. Thanks for the positive input.

oh, well then good thinking. i ran 100 mg since it was IP (if you don't know IP is bathtub type gear and may or may not be dosed proper plus the absorbtion leaves something to be desired). now i am on winny again, and its BD so i'm using 35mg a day. i'd say 25-50mg oral is fine, just to clarify. but i felt that dbol/winny cycle was my best gains to date. this new cycle should beat it though.

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Originally posted by WarbirdWS6
oh, well then good thinking. i ran 100 mg since it was IP (if you don't know IP is bathtub type gear and may or may not be dosed proper plus the absorbtion leaves something to be desired). now i am on winny again, and its BD so i'm using 35mg a day. i'd say 25-50mg oral is fine, just to clarify. but i felt that dbol/winny cycle was my best gains to date. this new cycle should beat it though.

TweetIf your going to run dbol only, I suggest a few things.

1. No liquidex, the bloat must be present in order to get good gains on dbol only, you need to hydrate the muscles, increase intracelluar water for better contractions and more nutrients.

2. Run it for at least 6 weeks. The first 3 weeks, you will mainly build up strength and water, just when you start getting solid size, you will be quittting.

3. Taper off the dbol. Thats right taper. Only compound i would taper with. Cut your dosage from 50 to 35, to 15, to 10.

4. Have nolva on hand. This will prevent gyno, yet still let you bloat which we established is good.

Heres a sample

Weeks 1-5 Dbol 50mg ed, split 4x a day
Week 6 Dbol (50,50, 50, 35, 35, 15, 10)
Week 7 Clomid 300, 100, 100, 100, 50, 50, 50
Week 8 Clomid 50mg eod

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Originally posted by Blackfoot
Warbird, I actually plan on running winny after the d-bol. But, I will not be at as high of a dose as you. Thanks for the positive input.

just dont forget if your running 50mg/dbol ed for 6wks and then use winny after its 17aa as well so watch your liver!

TweetI would run some test in the cycle. Even a dose of 250mg a weeks would help. But if you do a d-bol only cycle do as prolangtum said.

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Originally posted by prolangtum


3. Taper off the dbol. Thats right taper. Only compound i would taper with. Cut your dosage from 50 to 35, to 15, to 10.

Are you suggesting Tapering off the D-bol becuase its a "d-bol only" cycle or do you do that when it is added in a cycle also?

Tweetbecause its dbol only

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Originally posted by Blackfoot
Ok I've read dozens of threads on this subject and would like to have a concrete answer on this subject (if there is such a thing).

If running a short, 4 week, D-bol only cyle, is liquidex ok to prevent gyno or is it only to help reduce the bloat? I don't want to grow boobs

Thanks in advance.

D-bol + Liquidex = PURE ANABOLIC/BLOAT FREE GROWTH.

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Originally posted by prolangtum
If your going to run dbol only, I suggest a few things.

1. No liquidex, the bloat must be present in order to get good gains on dbol only, you need to hydrate the muscles, increase intracelluar water for better contractions and more nutrients.

2. Run it for at least 6 weeks. The first 3 weeks, you will mainly build up strength and water, just when you start getting solid size, you will be quittting.

3. Taper off the dbol. Thats right taper. Only compound i would taper with. Cut your dosage from 50 to 35, to 15, to 10.

4. Have nolva on hand. This will prevent gyno, yet still let you bloat which we established is good.

Heres a sample

Weeks 1-5 Dbol 50mg ed, split 4x a day
Week 6 Dbol (50,50, 50, 35, 35, 15, 10)
Week 7 Clomid 300, 100, 100, 100, 50, 50, 50
Week 8 Clomid 50mg eod

thanx for saying it bro i kept scrolling down waiting for it

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Originally posted by prolangtum
If your going to run dbol only, I suggest a few things.

1. No liquidex, the bloat must be present in order to get good gains on dbol only, you need to hydrate the muscles, increase intracelluar water for better contractions and more nutrients.

I'd have to disagree with this first statement. The rest of what you suggested makes perfect sense but keep in mind D-bol doesn't raise test levels that much, but it has an amazing impact on muscle catabolism. The initial weight gains are usually induced by estradiol influenced edema, which is controlled more or less with the use of Liquidex. With Liquidex, the overall weight gain on D-bol will not be as pronounced but neither will post cycle water loss. Also, the anabolic properties influenced will lend itself to more sustainable gains post cycle.

Tweeti just dont think theres a need for ldex during dbol - the water retention helps with the strentght gains. So thats the advantage to the dbol bloat. I would just keep nolva on hand IMO

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Originally posted by Josh
i just dont think theres a need for ldex during dbol - the water retention helps with the strentght gains. So thats the advantage to the dbol bloat. I would just keep nolva on hand IMO

D-bol aromitises and Liquidex works by stoping testosterone from aromatising or being converted into estrogen. In other words, it stops estrogen from forming altogether, no bloat at all. Gains are not hindered with I-dex, as some people think. You just look smaller since your holding less water.

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Originally posted by Juice Authority
I'd have to disagree with this first statement. The rest of what you suggested makes perfect sense but keep in mind D-bol doesn't raise test levels that much, but it has an amazing impact on muscle catabolism. The initial weight gains are usually induced by estradiol influenced edema, which is controlled more or less with the use of Liquidex. With Liquidex, the overall weight gain on D-bol will not be as pronounced but neither will post cycle water loss. Also, the anabolic properties influenced will lend itself to more sustainable gains post cycle.

agreed. thats why i kept 17 of my 23 lbs i gained on that cycle. 1/2 tab arimidex (had the real deal zeneca shit that time) ED during the dbol and i STILL gained like mad. better off using the arimidex and keeping off the weight your gonna lose anyway.