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      hi peeps;
      was wandering.. have done a few cycles to date,each time consisting of sust and deca2 (2 sust and one deca per week)usually mixed in with a course of d-bol..... last course was naps instead ( one a day for 4weeks on a six week course of the deca/sust.. my problem is this... i eat like a rabid dog in a butchers shop.... train like a jail bird with nuttin better to do.. and do all thoughs things im suposed to do ,but.. i can not bulk up... i have taken protien drinks,weightgain drinks ,creatine and vitamins... and i still stay in the same weight bracket.. what gear can i take to give me the kick that i need...and how much,how often and for how long?/
      please help me ... oh an all i ever get is acne.. .i do get a bit bigger but not much..
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      if ya want it.....cum and get it?!! but make sure ya really want it first... there is nil returnz...

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      dude, people will be able to help more if you give exact details on your diet,training routine, and rest.

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      4 d-bol sust-rt-arm 2nd load-cre 3 protien 16th july
      4 d-bol 3rd load crea 1 prot+1w-gain 17 july
      4 d-bol deca-lf-arm 4th load cre 3 w-gain 18th july
      4 d-bol 5th load cre 2 w-gain 19th
      4 d-bol sust-rt-arm 6th load cre 2w-gain 20th
      4 d-bol 7th load cre 2 w-gain 21st
      4 d-bol 1 dose crea 2 w-gain 22nd
      4 d-bol sust lf arm 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 10st 6lb 23rd
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 24th
      4 d-bol deca-rt-arm 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 25th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 26th
      4 d-bol sust-lt-arm 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 27th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 1 w-gain 28th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 10st 10lb 29th
      4 d-bol sust-rt-shoul 1 dose cre 1 w-gain 30th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 31st
      4 d-bol deca lf-arm 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 10st 10lb 1st august
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre4 1 w-gain 2nd august
      4 d-bol sust lf shou 1 w-gain 3rd august
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 4th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 1 w-gain 5th
      2 d-bol sust rt shou 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 10st 10lb 6th
      1 dose cre 7th
      deca rt-arm 1 dose cre 1 w-gain 8th
      1 weight gain 9th
      sust lf shou 1 w-gain 10th
      1 w-gain 11th
      2 w-gain 12th
      sust lf shoul 2 w-gain 13th
      3 w-gain 14th
      deca lf-arm 1 w-gain 15th
      1 w-gain 16th
      sust rt shoul 1 w-gain 17th
      1 w-gain 18th
      1 w-gain 19th
      sust lf shoul 1 w-gain 20th
      1 w-gain 21st
      deca rt-arm 1 w-gain 22nd
      23rd
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      sustrt shoul 25th
      26th
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      sust rt-pec 1 w-gain 28th
      deca lf arm 2 w-gain 10st13lb 29th
      30th
      sust lf pec 31st
      1st sept
      if ya want it.....cum and get it?!! but make sure ya really want it first... there is nil returnz...

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      maybe condense that down week by week, that's too complicated ...

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      U think u r overtraining maybe? how many set per muscle do u do normally? How many days a week? How man ydays of cardio? Maybe its 2 much cardio? When u say your in the same weight class does you bf% drop? You gotta be getting decent gains off ur cycle if the gear is real. Do u run clomid post cycle? R u running an anti e during ur cycle? It could be alot of things holding u back. This is a great board with alot of good people here. Just list ur diet and routine and someone will find an answer for u!!

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      dude not to flame but if u having done a cycle or cycles in the past its hard to believe that you have not gained any muscle? If you are taken real gear JMO
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      check the gear bro you should at least see some gains from sust and deca...
      Go big or go home!

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      all real gear definately sure of this.
      ususally train four /five primary exercises on a muscle group and then 3 secondary exercises on the same body part...some times super set prims with secs just to zap the shit out of the muscle..
      ie.. shoulder press is prim for shoulders but secondarily works the tri's and so on then i would supper set with tri pull downs etc.
      a set would be medium weight for 10 rps
      building to heaviest for 6/8 reps over 5/6 sets
      and then one light set to failure... i i train hard i can complete in 45 mins..typical shoulder routine would be seated shoulder press for five sets up til full weight on machine90kgs i think. standing alternate dumbell press for five sets up to 17.5 kgsshrugs front on easy curl bar up to 100kgs and then behind back for rear up to 100 kgs then standing flies up to 12.5 kgs..also would work in two primary chest exercises ie dumbell press's to 22.5 on each hand and pec dek for 5 sets increasing weight then burn out set on lighter weight to failure... i am only 10st6lb and 5'4"
      if ya want it.....cum and get it?!! but make sure ya really want it first... there is nil returnz...

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      never made 11 st ever used nolva and clomide.... done it all i think .....im now 36 years old. started 2 1/2 years ago

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      if ya want it.....cum and get it?!! but make sure ya really want it first... there is nil returnz...

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      Originally posted by ryan16
      check the gear bro you should at least see some gains from sust and deca...
      I'll 2nd that too, maybe it's your diet, training or maybe not enough sleep either....

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      Originally posted by fragmaster3sum
      4 d-bol sust-rt-arm 2nd load-cre 3 protien 16th july
      4 d-bol 3rd load crea 1 prot+1w-gain 17 july
      4 d-bol deca-lf-arm 4th load cre 3 w-gain 18th july
      4 d-bol 5th load cre 2 w-gain 19th
      4 d-bol sust-rt-arm 6th load cre 2w-gain 20th
      4 d-bol 7th load cre 2 w-gain 21st
      4 d-bol 1 dose crea 2 w-gain 22nd
      4 d-bol sust lf arm 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 10st 6lb 23rd
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 24th
      4 d-bol deca-rt-arm 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 25th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 26th
      4 d-bol sust-lt-arm 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 27th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 1 w-gain 28th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 10st 10lb 29th
      4 d-bol sust-rt-shoul 1 dose cre 1 w-gain 30th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 31st
      4 d-bol deca lf-arm 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 10st 10lb 1st august
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre4 1 w-gain 2nd august
      4 d-bol sust lf shou 1 w-gain 3rd august
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 4th
      4 d-bol 1 dose cre 1 w-gain 5th
      2 d-bol sust rt shou 1 dose cre 2 w-gain 10st 10lb 6th
      1 dose cre 7th
      deca rt-arm 1 dose cre 1 w-gain 8th
      1 weight gain 9th
      sust lf shou 1 w-gain 10th
      1 w-gain 11th
      2 w-gain 12th
      sust lf shoul 2 w-gain 13th
      3 w-gain 14th
      deca lf-arm 1 w-gain 15th
      1 w-gain 16th
      sust rt shoul 1 w-gain 17th
      1 w-gain 18th
      1 w-gain 19th
      sust lf shoul 1 w-gain 20th
      1 w-gain 21st
      deca rt-arm 1 w-gain 22nd
      23rd
      24th
      sustrt shoul 25th
      26th
      27th
      sust rt-pec 1 w-gain 28th
      deca lf arm 2 w-gain 10st13lb 29th
      30th
      sust lf pec 31st
      1st sept



      i know i said give exact details but, jesus! looks like you keep a good journal bro!

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      Originally posted by whitetail
      i know i said give exact details but, jesus! looks like you keep a good journal bro!

      No shit, I wish I did that sometimes...

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      Originally posted by football54
      dude not to flame but if u having done a cycle or cycles in the past its hard to believe that you have not gained any muscle? If you are taken real gear JMO
      agreeeeeee

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      hey peeps i havent been on really since geared up died but hey moved on to 12st now and for any one out there who has had the same problem as me and finds it really hard to gain any serious weight , my advice to you is to stick at it and eattill you are sick... i have had to take gear up t o 8 mil of cyp+8mil of tren+140 d-bol per week for 8 weeks then moving ont o 1600 mil of deca a week for 2 weeks also running hgc for two weeks to make any significant gains but hey it has worked fr me and now im stuck at 12 st think im gonna have to abuse the shit outa my gear to break through this barrier... some thimes you just have to throw caution to the wind and go for it thinkin bout growth next,,,,
      if ya want it.....cum and get it?!! but make sure ya really want it first... there is nil returnz...

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