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      Recently went from cruise of 250 mg week test cyp and 300 mg week deca to a blast cycle of 500mg of tren e, 500 mast e and 1000 mg of sust... My question is this.. during the cruise i started having nippy tenderness and ordered caber also have nolva... didnt start it yet.. I have however had 2 weeks of my blast and in that time the tenderness has all but gone away.. any thoughts as to why?

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      Wouldn't know, however, I would only recommend that you stay wary with that Tren E. Stuff is tough on your liver, might want to stick with Tren A so it's in and out ffast.

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      Quote Originally Posted by HumaLabs View Post
      Wouldn't know, however, I would only recommend that you stay wary with that Tren E. Stuff is tough on your liver, might want to stick with Tren A so it's in and out ffast.
      But what do I know?

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      Quote Originally Posted by HumaLabs View Post
      Wouldn't know, however, I would only recommend that you stay wary with that Tren E. Stuff is tough on your liver, might want to stick with Tren A so it's in and out ffast.
      It doesn't matter what ester you use with tren. It is the same parent hormone and you will get the same side effects. The tren a will go out faster but if you run 12 weeks of either you will have the side effects as long as you run them. My guess would be the mass is what made your sensetivness go away. It does act in some people as kind of do not get me wrong it isn't an AI or replacement but it has anti estrogen like charictaristics. Your good to go brother. I would back off on the sust bro. You will make just as good of gains at a lower 600 to 800 mg dosage. This is only my opinion. I hope it helps!
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      It doesn't matter what ester you use with tren. It is the same parent hormone and you will get the same side effects. The tren a will go out faster but if you run 12 weeks of either you will have the side effects as long as you run them. My guess would be the mass is what made your sensetivness go away. It does act in some people as kind of do not get me wrong it isn't an AI or replacement but it has anti estrogen like charictaristics. Your good to go brother. I would back off on the sust bro. You will make just as good of gains at a lower 600 to 800 mg dosage. This is only my opinion. I hope it helps!
      Excellent answer

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      Drop aromasin @ 12.5mg ED. I run this with NPP test P Tren pretty much all my cycles. I used to be prown to gyno but now I don't worry about it at all.

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      My best guess would be the mast.

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      Letro gets rid of gyno within days

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      You got the gyno cuz you were running the deca more than the test which is a huge no no... If i read that correctly. But you always keep test higher than deca. As far as the tren e tren a thing goes HH is right on it doesnt matter what ester it is. In fact Tren a will get out of your system faster BUT i garentee you see more sides from tren a then you would from tren e. Why? well lets see tren a is stronger mg to mg than tren e and it hits you faster therfore making your sides worse... Tren e just like test e has the LONGER ESTER attached therfore your not getting as much of the ester from the actual hormone in a short period of time so with your tren e your gettting less of the ester at once and in turn keeps your sides down due to your blood levels staying steadier. Tren a is stronger and unless you pin min doeses ED you will see worse sides compared to the tren e. Im tring to eat so i hope this made sense LOL.

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      I always thought running higher test then DECA was a preference. I mean the more test you run is going to give you a better chance of getting gyno because of elevated test levels your body raises your estrogen. The only risk I see of running more test then DECA is erectile disfunction. DECA and tren are both nandralones and cause prolactine related sides which could cause you to lactate and form breast tissue. Have you ever ran prami or cabber night train?
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      I meant running more DECA then test.
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      yes your correct HH due to ED and the prolactin... But isnt prolactin a form of gyno?????

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      The rsn i ask this is because usually ppl dont get gyno just from 250 mg of test so i just figured it was due to the deca especially with being ran higher than the test. So i just figured he was having prolactine gyno from the deca, in which i didnt make clear in my first post. Not arguing here AT ALL just gathering more info...

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