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Originally Posted by sensitivenips

is this another one of those posts where you end up doing a few measly minutes of research to come back around and say "OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUSNESS NIPS IS RIIIIIGHT!!!"

oh my goodness gracious, nips is right.

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Originally Posted by DEE151

Dam i wish i can get my blood word done, been on a cycle for over a yr, within that time frame i have use deca, test,winny, on var and test and tren now. and use some tbol to.

your crazy if you don't

in fact, id say borderline irresponsible, if not just plain irresponsible if you don't.

you f'ing with the bodies complex messenger system - hormones.

not something to be taken lightly, at all.

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Originally Posted by TexSon

what'd he say?


kiddin.

I got it nips....voodoo.

steroids are voodoo. nothing new there. biochemistry of each individual and the way it will react to any given substance is always....well, voodoo.

still, there are generalities that apply, and in regards to tren....dude, the verdict is in - been in a long time ago.

trenbolone + liver toxicity = na ga happen.



but, here is another take on the matter - the f'ing butt loads of high dollar, tax dollar I might add, tests the government has compiled, and again, butt loads on the topic of feed efficiency.



bare with me here.

in other words - beef feeds the masses and is important to the well being of this country.

given this fact, you have the cattle industry, whose main concern is cost vs return on investment.

in other words, how much will a cattleman earn from the sale of a cow versus how much it cost to feed him.


I know what your thinking - fk, tex.....wtf are you talking about.


about this - massive studies have been done on trenbolone by our government on behalf of the cattle industry, and its been done at prohibitive costs involving some of the finest minds around.

feeding the people of this nation is a far greater matter to the trenbolone industry than how big nips biceps are.

I've read a good deal of this documentation for a few different reasons and I can tell you that in no given instance within these white papers did they ever mention any physical abnormalities in the cattle whatsoever. not in blood chemistry, muscle fiber construction, kidneys, liver, tendon ailments....nothing.

granted, this is cattle, not humans...still, it supports the idea that trenbolone, as a steroid, given for increase in lean muscle mass is a fairly innocuous compound.


and just like the creatine stories, so you will have the trenbolone stories.


remember - trenbolone's #1 use in this country is cattle related.



its all there under the department of argricultures archives if anyone is interested.

lol! thank you for that tex. in all the non serious discussions, jokesty jokersons, and sly yet inventive comments you make, i hand the baton on to you my good sir. your study is interesting and informative, and i guess your prolly right about being in the game longer than myself, but truth be told my digital duo, this case has been rested by you. until i am able to bring some proof otherwise, i close my fingers on this thread, and commence immediate haltage of any further discussions on this excellent topic of choice naturally selected by our good man the vagina eater.

tex, i want you to know this...and let this be known its coming from deep below...at the bottom of my gut, with every inch of me, I plain, straight hate you...but dammit, do I respect you!

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Originally Posted by sensitivenips

tex, i want you to know this...and let this be known its coming from deep below...at the bottom of my gut, with every inch of me, I plain, straight hate you...but dammit, do I respect you!

tttooooo funny.

takes a lot to make ME laugh.


but seriously....

look nips...you love me.

you know it.

I know it.

reach deep down and get in touch with your feelings, brother, and just give in to it. your life will be easier. trust me.


and think about all the money you will save on counseling and therapy.


.

Tweetonly thing is see missing from this discussion is the bp issue with tren. ok say you have tren and drol. both of these compounds are high androgenic. both of these compounds tend to raise the bp in a number of people (not all). this can result in the stress on the kidneys. now just like everyone is speaking about, this isnt the case for everyone but just like bloods you most def need to keep an eye on the bp and not let it get out of hand.

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Originally Posted by TexSon

your crazy if you don't

in fact, id say borderline irresponsible, if not just plain irresponsible if you don't.

you f'ing with the bodies complex messenger system - hormones.

not something to be taken lightly, at all.

ya your right but allot of ppl do this to.
wen ever i do come off ill take some hgh and MK-osta to keep my gains....

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Originally Posted by DEE151

Dam i wish i can get my blood word done, been on a cycle for over a yr, within that time frame i have use deca, test,winny, on var and test and tren now. and use some tbol to.

If you live in the U.S.A. there is no reason you can't get blood work done. It costs $60 and is private. One year on multiple compounds.....whoah.. it would be worth it!
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Originally Posted by mfdvr

If you live in the U.S.A. there is no reason you can't get blood work done. It costs $60 and is private. One year on multiple compounds.....whoah.. it would be worth it!
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it is illegal to do in some states without a doc's request. ny and il dont allow it and i know their are a few other states as well

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Originally Posted by guns01

it is illegal to do in some states without a doc's request. ny and il dont allow it and i know their are a few other states as well

Yep, guns you are right. It is illegal in NY, NJ, MA, MD or RI. All other states are GTG

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Originally Posted by mfdvr

Yep, guns you are right. It is illegal in NY, NJ, MA, MD or RI. All other states are GTG

never heard that. what's more, don't make sense.

but, whatever.

f'ing laws.

that's why I don't obey them.

TweetI came across some old bottles I had of Tren acetate. I wonder if its any good? I will have to see who made it. Damn, I dont want to **** up my kidneys with it...

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Originally Posted by mfdvr

If you live in the U.S.A. there is no reason you can't get blood work done. It costs $60 and is private. One year on multiple compounds.....whoah.. it would be worth it!
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yes i live in the USA

Originally Posted by guns01

it is illegal to do in some states without a doc's request. ny and il dont allow it and i know their are a few other states as well

will i get introuble doing this?

Tweetwitch test should i buy then?