Tweet

Originally Posted by mfdvr

Sounds like it's the BA that's the bad news, not the tren. Seems tren has a mystique around everything about it from effects to risks, just and observation....

your right, mfdvr.l..tren has always had that mystigue an intrigue about it.

but toxic...not happening.

no injectibles that I know of. well, not the standards, anyway.

.

Tweet

Originally Posted by TexSon

your right, mfdvr.l..tren has always had that mystigue an intrigue about it.

but toxic...not happening.

no injectibles that I know of. well, not the standards, anyway.

.

dudes come on now, lets take a moment and put our thinking caps on with the label "common sense." ok good, now there have been blood tests reporting elevated liver enzymes in cycles utilizing palpable test dosages. so, if we use logic and reason with prior knowledge in this thread one could extend this basis onto trenbolone making a rational conclusion that tren would elevate liver enzymes much more wouldnt you agree?

but lets extend this ideology with the response level of each individual utilizing test, and that response level regarding ranges in elevated liver enzymes is varied bc our bodies all respond differently, in other words no two bodies respond exactly the same. so this would mean some individuals may have elevated liver enzymes, and some may not. therefore we can make an assumption regarding trenbolone to the extent of the variables previously mentioned that some may see increases in liver enzymes and some may not.

Tweet

Originally Posted by sensitivenips

dudes come on now, lets take a moment and put our thinking caps on with the label "common sense." ok good, now there have been blood tests reporting elevated liver enzymes in cycles utilizing palpable test dosages. so, if we use logic and reason with prior knowledge in this thread one could extend this basis onto trenbolone making a rational conclusion that tren would elevate liver enzymes much more wouldnt you agree?

but lets extend this ideology with the response level of each individual utilizing test, and that response level regarding ranges in elevated liver enzymes is varied bc our bodies all respond differently, in other words no two bodies respond exactly the same. so this would mean some individuals may have elevated liver enzymes, and some may not. therefore we can make an assumption regarding trenbolone to the extent of the variables previously mentioned that some may see increases in liver enzymes and some may not.

what'd he say?


kiddin.

I got it nips....voodoo.

steroids are voodoo. nothing new there. biochemistry of each individual and the way it will react to any given substance is always....well, voodoo.

still, there are generalities that apply, and in regards to tren....dude, the verdict is in - been in a long time ago.

trenbolone + liver toxicity = na ga happen.



but, here is another take on the matter - the f'ing butt loads of high dollar, tax dollar I might add, tests the government has compiled, and again, butt loads on the topic of feed efficiency.



bare with me here.

in other words - beef feeds the masses and is important to the well being of this country.

given this fact, you have the cattle industry, whose main concern is cost vs return on investment.

in other words, how much will a cattleman earn from the sale of a cow versus how much it cost to feed him.


I know what your thinking - fk, tex.....wtf are you talking about.


about this - massive studies have been done on trenbolone by our government on behalf of the cattle industry, and its been done at prohibitive costs involving some of the finest minds around.

feeding the people of this nation is a far greater matter to the trenbolone industry than how big nips biceps are.

I've read a good deal of this documentation for a few different reasons and I can tell you that in no given instance within these white papers did they ever mention any physical abnormalities in the cattle whatsoever. not in blood chemistry, muscle fiber construction, kidneys, liver, tendon ailments....nothing.

granted, this is cattle, not humans...still, it supports the idea that trenbolone, as a steroid, given for increase in lean muscle mass is a fairly innocuous compound.


and just like the creatine stories, so you will have the trenbolone stories.


remember - trenbolone's #1 use in this country is cattle related.



its all there under the department of argricultures archives if anyone is interested.

Tweet

Originally Posted by TexSon

what'd he say?


kiddin.

I got it nips....voodoo.

steroids are voodoo. nothing new there. biochemistry of each individual and the way it will react to any given substance is always....well, voodoo.

still, there are generalities that apply, and in regards to tren....dude, the verdict is in - been in a long time ago.

trenbolone + liver toxicity = na ga happen.



but, here is another take on the matter - the f'ing butt loads of high dollar, tax dollar I might add, tests the government has compiled, and again, butt loads on the topic of feed efficiency.



bare with me here.

in other words - beef feeds the masses and is important to the well being of this country.

given this fact, you have the cattle industry, whose main concern is cost vs return on investment.

in other words, how much will a cattleman earn from the sale of a cow versus how much it cost to feed him.


I know what your thinking - fk, tex.....wtf are you talking about.


about this - massive studies have been done on trenbolone by our government on behalf of the cattle industry, and its been done at prohibitive costs involving some of the finest minds around.

feeding the people of this nation is a far greater matter to the trenbolone industry than how big nips biceps are.

I've read a good deal of this documentation for a few different reasons and I can tell you that in no given instance within these white papers did they ever mention any physical abnormalities in the cattle whatsoever. not in blood chemistry, muscle fiber construction, kidneys, liver, tendon ailments....nothing.

granted, this is cattle, not humans...still, it supports the idea that trenbolone, as a steroid, given for increase in lean muscle mass is a fairly innocuous compound.


and just like the creatine stories, so you will have the trenbolone stories.


remember - trenbolone's #1 use in this country is cattle related.



its all there under the department of argricultures archives if anyone is interested.

lol! thank you for that tex. in all the non serious discussions, jokesty jokersons, and sly yet inventive comments you make, i hand the baton on to you my good sir. your study is interesting and informative, and i guess your prolly right about being in the game longer than myself, but truth be told my digital duo, this case has been rested by you. until i am able to bring some proof otherwise, i close my fingers on this thread, and commence immediate haltage of any further discussions on this excellent topic of choice naturally selected by our good man the vagina eater.

tex, i want you to know this...and let this be known its coming from deep below...at the bottom of my gut, with every inch of me, I plain, straight hate you...but dammit, do I respect you!

Tweet

Originally Posted by sensitivenips

tex, i want you to know this...and let this be known its coming from deep below...at the bottom of my gut, with every inch of me, I plain, straight hate you...but dammit, do I respect you!

tttooooo funny.

takes a lot to make ME laugh.


but seriously....

look nips...you love me.

you know it.

I know it.

reach deep down and get in touch with your feelings, brother, and just give in to it. your life will be easier. trust me.


and think about all the money you will save on counseling and therapy.


.