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Tweeteveryone is different sooo I'm asking you fellow builders.... what to use now..?? I've been on test 250 e now for about a year, 1- 1.5 cc every week. I havee to come off. having problems with the injections.. don't want to get into it.. so lets stay positive.. what can I take now? I'm taking var, supps for joints... I don't want my test to crash so I have proviron and nolva on hand as well as teib. tbols increase test levels a bit so should I take that with the var or?? yes I am experienced but want some outside ideas. no pinning. not for a few months. gonna let my pinning spots heal. thanks bros!
Tweet250mg of test e a week. that's not a whole lot. still, i guess it is enough to shut the htp feedback loop down, if that is your main concern. not really sounding like you're wanting to cycle off (stop test altogether), just avoid needles. In that case, any oral will do...some better than others, but if you got tbol, then prob solved.
Tweetthat's it? 29 views and no other helpful insight? ?
Tweetnot much you can do without pinning that would be worth a damn or that wouldnt screw you up, thats just my opinion though. i am 100% against oral only cycles i think they are a waste of product and money and the only one i would ever do is dbol only and even that i wouldn't really ever consider. if you want a break maybe just take a rest and dont use anything for a while? I dont know much about tbol but var only is a total waste IMO especially for the price of var. prov is the only thing id do when not on test but even then i like it affects much more with test so i wouldnt really waste that either. maybe stop injections for a while, stop running orals and watch for estro rebound and sides. stay away from needles for a little and try to get a bunch of deep tissues messages and hot baths to break up scar tissue and other trouble with injection spots then go back at it? I am not really sure what your goals are or anything you didnt really give to much info on why your wanting to stop and what you are hoping to gain or achieve by doing so. Anyway for now thats all i can say best of luck.
I never meant to be better than anyone, I was just born that way. Its hard being a god amongst peasants!
TweetEver looked into paperbolics?
B2J
A river cuts through rock, NOT because of its strength, but because of its consistency...so let's f----ing do this bros!!!
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Tweetnever even heard of it?^
I never meant to be better than anyone, I was just born that way. Its hard being a god amongst peasants!
Tweetpaperbolics? are you just being smart??
TweetI'm 39 and just trying to keep size gain a little hang on to some youth... not lookin to get huge or anything. I'm already a good size..
Tweetpaperbolics is the same chemistry, only on paper...liquid form.
biggest manufacturer, redcat got popped, though.
TweetI remember when he got taken down for sure. I used him on and off in the past.
I am sure somebody is making paperbolics out there. I am not as connected as I used to be any longer.
But that would be an excellent option for tazzy.
B2J
A river cuts through rock, NOT because of its strength, but because of its consistency...so let's f----ing do this bros!!!
Born2Juice4Ever biochemically designed for the people, by the people!
TweetImho is your wanting to stay on pinning is inevitable! Oral only cycles are a waste of time and really should only run your orals for 6 weeks max (IMO). Have you considered running Test Deconate? 1 pin a week on a trt dose and you'd be fine and then could add an oral of your choice. Just out of curiosity how many spots do you pin and do you have a rotation schedule? For me I work from the traps down with my pins. For instance I go.... Traps, delts, pecs, ventral glute, quads (never glute because nothing goes in my ass)
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It wasn't just him. There was someone else too, kinda affiliated. I correspondent with redcat for awhile, but that was, f*ck, 12-14 years ago? Then I saw a article somewhere saying where he got popped. Him and the affiliate.
I tried em, several times, and it was quality stuff. Just quit doing orals is all.
The only advantage there ever was to paperbolics was shipping. NEVER got confiscated. 100% garanteed.
cool guy, too.
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Tweetwell if anybody knows a paperbolic guy.... I only pin in my shoulders. I shot in my tri and it ****ed me so not so gung hoe about shooting anywhere else. Besides, I have been on a low does for over a year now and my body is all over the place so I want to take a break just to let it settle. When I first started the test I was a horney ****.. Now its not so much and I'm extremely moody!
TweetI got news for you. If you are moody now and still are taking trt. Once you go off you are going to crash bad. Meaning no test or very low test. Recovery will be 4 to 6 months. I'm not joking. I'm not 100% really what you are asking. These orals are not going to fix your bodies Test needs. You are looking at a bunch of anabolics. Sure it will help keep your body anabolic (not catabolic). It wont do squat for your libido or your well being . You need the male hormone. PERIOD
I shoot mostly my shoulders. 1 a week 200 to 250 ml test. Rotate each shoulder each week. So that's just two shots per shoulder per month. Not really a big deal. If you need more test shoot 1.25ml per shot.
Like I said this break you are going to take from test is going to be a ride. I hope you at least have nolvadex on hand to control the estro from spiking. If not it will happen.
I'm a 51 year old dude who has been down your road many times. Much easier to stay on low does test. Even 150mg a week will do the trick.
Best of luck,
GC