TweetFor the first time I would go with tren a for sure. If the sides become an issue you'll be able to discontinue use. I'd run 75mg eod and see how that goes. test tren mast is a nice stack, you'll be happy with the results. You'll absolutely want caber on hand for any prolactin issues. Sides are numerous but different for everyone, insomnia and sweats being the worst for me. Also make sure your liver values are in check as tren will wreak havok on it.

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Originally Posted by ZOOT

For the first time I would go with tren a for sure. If the sides become an issue you'll be able to discontinue use. I'd run 75mg eod and see how that goes. test tren mast is a nice stack, you'll be happy with the results. You'll absolutely want caber on hand for any prolactin issues. Sides are numerous but different for everyone, insomnia and sweats being the worst for me. Also make sure your liver values are in check as tren will wreak havok on it.

What dosage of Sust would I run along side the tren, and how many weeks to run the tren a?

Tweetmost run tren a for 6-8 wks .... and 1ml in the same pin with the tren eod will be ok... due to the short esters in the sust and tren a being a short ester in order to keep blood levels stable

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Originally Posted by bionic redneck

most run tren a for 6-8 wks .... and 1ml in the same pin with the tren eod will be ok... due to the short esters in the sust and tren a being a short ester in order to keep blood levels stable

So cycle would look like Sust 1ml eod, tren A 1ml, eod, (same pin) with tren being run the first 8 weeks and sust all 12 weeks? I've also heard that sust or test should be run at lower doses to reduce sides of tren?

TweetFirst tren Cycle : 6-8 wks TrenA @ 1ml EOD Test P 100 @ 1ml EOD

My current cycle TestP 100 @1mlED and TrenA 100 @ 1ml ED
Anavar 25mg 4x ED
25mg Provirion 2x ED
.5mg Caber 2x EW
I only have insomnia the first few weeks but the Endurance drop off is for the whole cycle. So make sure diet is great because it is hard to run off those Cals.
I was using Aromasin @ 25mg ED but I felt tired, low libido and joints started hurting so I switched to Provirion

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Originally Posted by mfdvr

So cycle would look like Sust 1ml eod, tren A 1ml, eod, (same pin) with tren being run the first 8 weeks and sust all 12 weeks? I've also heard that sust or test should be run at lower doses to reduce sides of tren?

The reason people run test the same or lower then Tren is because they work off the same receptor so If there is more Tren then Test Then Tren has more receptors to attach to. Sides are all person specific and experience based also. I had more sides on my first Tren Cycle and I used half as much as I do now adays. I also do longer cycles now then I used to do.

Tweetg i dont think tren would be good for a 2nd cycle, plus you literally just started your current cycle which is your first cycle. in a couple of months you could be halfway or little more than halfway through your first cycle. i think its great that you are "planning" your next cycle, but a couple months from now is not enough time unless your looking to add this stuff to your first cycle.

on a serious note my dude you should consider npp instead of tren, and see how you respond to that instead. if you dont want a short ester but you want to yield the results and power of a 19 nor then go with deca. i think your reading too much into what the big boys are doing and wanting to jump the gun here. play your cards right and dont throw down your biggest hand just yet. wait on the tren.

TweetIm in the same boat. i will be running tren E though, Tren a will get out your system faster but tren e just seems better for ME in this case, everyone is different. as for the sides again everyone is different i know guys who can run a shit load of tren and have no sides i know people who run the smallest amount and have every side possible everyone is different, all you can do is try it and find out!
I will be running proviron and anavar along side the test and tren
if the guy above me is correct though i would wait on the tren as well if i was you. try decca instead as said, you will love that 2 i promise!

TweetIm going to be starting my first tren cycle in about 2 weeks. currently running Test e/Decca blend at 750/600 per week with a Test P kick start then will be switching over to a Test p, Tren a, Mast blend for 10 weeks with the test/Decca hoping to get lean and add some size.

TweetOne thing that has helped me with the tren sides is vitamin B-6 at 200mg twice a day as opposed to caber . Plan on also changing the sheets on your bed every two days, I am running 600mg of tren e right now and the night sweats are terrible. Aggression and attitude have been kept in check with 5-HTPA every day for the first month or so.

TweetThanks for the posts guys. Seems the consensus is tren is too heavy for a second cycle and decca/NPP is the way to go. I'm pretty much an all or nothing guy in everything I do, including the gym, but I don't want to be reckless with a cycle. I'm 4 weeks in to my first cycle (sust and mast p) and loving it, I thought of tren for next time just to step it up to the next level, but it sounds the decca/NPP might do that for me. Do you guys prefer Decca or NPP? I'm currently injecting eod with no problems so frequency is not a factor for me. Which gives better results or less sides, decca vs NPP?

Tweet^ i always prefer less injections, sacves me money time and i hate needles. decca blew me up nice i love decca but if the injections arnt a problem then NPP

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Originally Posted by mfdvr

Thanks for the posts guys. Seems the consensus is tren is too heavy for a second cycle and decca/NPP is the way to go. I'm pretty much an all or nothing guy in everything I do, including the gym, but I don't want to be reckless with a cycle. I'm 4 weeks in to my first cycle (sust and mast p) and loving it, I thought of tren for next time just to step it up to the next level, but it sounds the decca/NPP might do that for me. Do you guys prefer Decca or NPP? I'm currently injecting eod with no problems so frequency is not a factor for me. Which gives better results or less sides, decca vs NPP?

I Like NPP better then Deca I get less sides and more results per mg. I have done over 8 cycles and did not try tren until cycle 5 and will never not use tren now I love it. TestP/TrenA/Anavar is the best cycle for me and I love the lean muscle gains and crazy pumps.

If you do do NPP try it in the 400-600mg range and see how you like it.
Everyone is different tho my man. The cycle I had the worst sides from was
16 Week
Test cyp 750
Deca 750
Dbol 30mg weeks 1-4
Adex
Prolacterone

I got gyno from this cycle not bad and was able to reverse it with letro but I have never had a issue with Tren cycle

Also man add some Advanced Cycle Support supplement to your cycles it will help with liver and blood pressure. Baby1 or Fuzo may be able to get a discount code or let you know of sale just PM one of them.