TweetOK now I am on a testosterone cruise and really like it. I want to add a cycle of tren later. I got some questions.
What is the best test/tren ratio?
Since I will stay on test what is the pct for tren?

I have all the caber, adex etc on hand but am not plagued by estro sides even up to 600 mg test per week.

At the end of the cycle I am looking fo 10# of keepable gains.

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Originally Posted by chrisotpherm

I have played with tren a lot this past year. I have ran test higher than tren, results where not as bad as far as anxiety as when I ran tren higher than test. I also noticed that while running tren higher than test prolactone sides and being shut down as far as sex goes where crucial, this is without running any caber. I ran both higher test and higher tren cycles without caber to see the true sides. I know many will advise against this as do I but in order to give someone advice in the future I willingly did this so I can know what I am talking about instead of bro science. IMO whether running higher tren or higher test proviron or caber is a must imo for stabilized libido throughout cycle. The only AI I ran during these cycles armidex. Again I ran cycles with an AI and without, and found that AI is crucial and found really no difference as far as sides from running higher tren or test during cycles. This is my body, but again the ratio ran and sides didn't very to much. I experienced the same sides from each ratio, but it is imperative imo to run a good AI. I prefer armidex on cycle and aromasin in pct, at the time when I still pct. I must say I had better results from running tren higher than my test. I have ran test e and prop during my tren runs. If blasting I prefer test prop due to it being a faster ester just like tren a works amazing for a 8-10wk run, when running a 10+ cycle prefer test e or c because tren a kicks it off real fast and about 3-4wks into the cycle the longer ester kicks in for the added push and usually stabilizes me out mentally and sexually more than it would when running prop. Again during these cycles I only ran test prop and test e, no other added compounds to be the guinea pig so I speak educated versus ignorant. I will also admit that I have ran a tren a only cycle, yes I did it, it was the dumbest thing I have ever done. Sides where almost unbearable as far as my mental state and sex drive. Gains were there, but the sides wasn't worth it imo, and I pct and seemed to take forever to stabilize my natural levels and bp.

As far as TRT, of which I have been doing for almost a year now. There is no need to pct as we call this stage blasting and cruising. IMO where it be a short blast or long cycle, I recommend to cruise for at least the same amount of time on cycle or blast as your cycle. You could cut the cruise time by 2-3 wks short to enter another cycle. Again this is just my opinion.

My cycles that I have ran with Tren A.
Wk 1-12 Test e and have done Test C- 500mg and one cycle 850mg
Wk 1-10 Tren a 300 and 400mg

Wk 1-10 Test Prop 700mg and 400mg
Wk 1-8 Tren a 400mg and 560mg

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The dumb cycle
Wk 1-6 Tren a 400mg

For injections I did eod and ed injections and found that as much as it sucks and annoying I recommend ed injections for stabilized blood levels.

One thing I forgot to mention as I ran HCG on the second cycles of both longer ester test and short ester test. I played both with 500iu and 1000 iu weekly IM
injections. The way I tested for my own best results were is I ran 500iu half way through the longer and shorter cycles then half way through switched to 1000iu weekly. For me I have found regardless of dosing that 1000iu is better suit than with 500iu

Hope this helps.

great answer thanks

Originally Posted by Michelle Hayden

1/4 to 1 is good ratio..like tren is very anabolic and i think guys overdue it. So it would be like if you are running a gram of test do 400mg of tren..get it? dont listen to me tho i am just a girl lol PCT you run just like you would with any other cycle, but if you get shut down hard use mor hcg and it can help to run alittle proviron during..it will help with your junk. [/I]

lol Michele I would not say just a girl. In this sport you are very respected regardless of gender