TweetI'm not sold on peptides either, my wife loves MT2 but to me the rest are not very effective. But my experience is very limited and will probably stay that way.

Tweethey vette!!! nice to see you around bro!!...i know you have great info on peptides...your one of the few i trust on the subject!!

mt2 for the lady's? whats that about?

i have only tried igfr3 and did it completely wrong!! well....done gh and that works awesome. i'd like to put a peptide cyc together, that wont kill the funds, and see how it goes!!!

TweetYou can only voice this opinion if you believe that science isn't real. Their are gh serum results showing that peptides create a gh pulse and pretty damn big one at that. Some of the others one i do believe aren't worth the money but to lump them all in one category si simple minded and very uneducated.

TweetThere is no reason to wait to eat after you take gh. That theory came from the fact that people use to think that carbs and fat would blunt a gh release. It has since been proven that it does not and not only that you are not pulsing you are injecting synthetic gh, it will run it's course no matter what. Just some food for thought.

TweetI physician has done testing on this and his pulse was the same fasted or not fasted. The only reason to take gh in a fasted state is to help accelerate FFA release and to help aid in fat burning. Before bed would not be the proper time to worry about his as you are about to go to bed and not go do cardio. Also put some logic behind it. It takes 1-2 hour until your normal food is truly being digested and 4-5 hours for it to clear your intestines. This is why you need to fast for 8 hours prior to blood work and the such. With knowing this unless you haven't eaten in the last 4-5 hours does waiting 20 min really effect the gh. NO. Besides that like i said earlier if you inject synthetic gh it is going to run it's course and do what it does. I have done gh serum tests fasted and non fasted and the result is the same. People thought you needed to wait because it says fasted on the gh serum test when you order it. The reason for this is you are trying to get a natural pulse which they say would be blunted by food(natural pulse might be but ghrp's and ghrh;s are not blunted by food). People just bro scienced this into you need to not eat for x time until your gh. Once again what is 20 min actually doing for you lol. Im sorry i don't have the pubmed article to link to this, but i have done lots of reading and their is a doc that has a his own private practice that has done many tests on another forum that i have talked to and read all of his results.

TweetLove this topic, been fascinated with peptides ever since my early webmaster/forum days.
Current perspective/balance sheet on peptides trending
Assets
HGH: Best user-friendly polypeptide hormone for anti-aging/body re-composition (generally best suited for males with lean mass also on or familiar with AAS). Downside is the risky nature of sales/acquisition/sustainability....
IGF-1 (analogs LR3 & DES): Interesting research peptide with varying quality control/reliability - a product I understand to deliver value to a specific niche (to loved ones I generally do not advocate experimentation)
Melanotan: Amazing product particularly for those with lacking ability to tan/pigment in nature - unfortunately the mainstream utilizes Melanotan 2 as it's cheap/effective (hanging onto hopes that a more potent analog similar to MT-1 sequence will make it to market one day)
Ipamorelin: Subtle GHRP which offers results with less sides (out of control appetite/lifestyle interference...for those not training/eating full-time) as compared to GHRP-6/GHRP-2
TB-500: Very interesting healing peptide being used for those recovery from muscle tears, surgery, inflammation, etc - something to keep a lookout for results, between the marketing there are rave reviews seemingly offering life-changing experiences
AICAR/GW-501516: Trainers I trust continue to slowly filter positive tid-bits on these premiums

Liabilities
HGH Fragments: Snake oil to avoid, however relatively harmless
Follistatin/Myostatin: Guinea pigs looking to get Phil'd need only to apply
CJC-1295 (DAC): Use enough of it weekly and feel bloated, lethargic, pain in joints/etc
Sermorelin: Typically over-priced briefly efficacious GHRH product barely worth its salt
Hexarelin: Purchase alternative GHRP-2, hex hasn't delivered value from my vantage point

TweetVette I always knew you were a smart cookie. I agree with everything you said right there. I stick to ghrp2 and mod grf. And I throw some igf 1 des in the mix for a few weeks every couple of months. Hgh is also amazing assuming you get good stuff.

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Tweetlearned alot from all the guys. i know some of the top pros gear that they use and theres not alot of peptides on there lists. mostly just insulin, hgh, parabolan and other steroids only no peptides. i think ill listen to anabolic and stay with just steroids, slin, metformin. dexter jackson dont use no peptides or slin just alot, alot of steroids at high dosages.