Tweeti will be the first to say it and in my younger years i def pushed the envelope but that is pure stupidity at it's best. sad thing is most of that is wasted and turns in to some horrific side effects, not to mention what it does to ones health. from the var crushing lipids which is going to be bad for the heart to the addition of the tren which is going to increase bp and stress the kidneys out. to each their own but damn that's a boat load of both risk with most likely no reward

on a side note, if you are using 1.5g of tren per week along with var and cant see your abs then most likely you shouldnt be using because your diet is absolute horse shit. hell the tren should be melting the fat off like dnp at that high of a dose