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you need to try some equi block from elite fts man. you want to be on fire? that shit is hotter than hell sticks just as bad as dmso and works great. only a couple drops or two and you are all set. i slathered it on the first time on my elbows and biceps and thought i was going to die. then got into the shower later on and it cranked it back up just as bad. stuff is money for sure