TweetBump for this thread, tons of great info. In regards to ancillaries, that's why I always mention blood work. I've seen so many guys over the years move to the extreme one way or the other. I've come across guys that have no clue what ancillaries are, or how to use them and estro is obviously off the charts. On the other end of the spectrum, I've come across guys that get one slight little itch around their nipple, then panic reaching for every ancillary product they can get their hands on and drop their estro to damn near zero. Blood work is paramount when keeping everything in balance.